Jacking points for a shop lift?

[gt3mike]

Does anyone have a shop lift in their garage? If so, what jacking points do you use? With all of the references to lifting and trail jacks on here, I'm finding it impossible to search for an answer to this question.

I have a Bendpak MD-6XP mid-rise lift. With my JK, I have always lifted from the frame. I've also seen people recommend lifting a JK via the body mount points. What's the best answer for the Gladiator?

Thanks!

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[Mr._Bill]

Does anyone have a shop lift in their garage? If so, what jacking points do you use? With all of the references to lifting and trail jacks on here, I'm finding it impossible to search for an answer to this question.

I have a Bendpak MD-6XP mid-rise lift. With my JK, I have always lifted from the frame. I've also seen people recommend lifting a JK via the body mount points. What's the best answer for the Gladiator?

Thanks!

I would think that you would lift the frame. Using the body mount points focuses the weight there and risks damage to those points and to the body. Whenever I have watched a lift being used, it has always been under the frame rails.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I will NEVER EVER lift a vehicle using OTHER than the frame. Even unibody cars I use the frame rails or specific lift points.
If it's got a frame, I use the frame. I've used almost every type of lift/hoist made as I was a mechanic for decades and worked in more than one shop.
There is one truly safe point - and that's the frame.
I won't even listen to non-professionals on this sort of thing. Just because someone did it or got by doesn't make it safe or right.

 

[NC_Overland]

Yeah, I’m not sure how this is even a question on a full framed vehicle.

Or you could always do the safe bet and use the steering components as jacking points (don’t do that).

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yeah, I’m not sure how this is even a question on a full framed vehicle.

Or you could always do the safe bet and use the steering components as jacking points (don’t do that).

Yup..........
Any other place means the whole weight of the FRAME, ENGINE, TRANSMISSION, DIFFERENTIALS, DRIVESHAFTS, STEERING GEAR, you name it, is all hanging by the body mount points.
All of the steering, suspension and whole drive-train, including engine and all, is attached to the frame, so lifting by any body part at all means everything is being lifted by the body mount points.

This is serious business, anyone not lifting by the frame is risking their truck and perhaps life.
Unless there are other specific lift or jacking points spelled out in the owner manual or TSM (technical service manual), the frame is the place to lift if using a hoist or vehicle lift.

Sometimes what people do as shade-tree internet "experts" scares the heck out of me.

I have also seen cars badly damaged by risky lifting, not using safeties, or not having thing balanced. In one case a car went forward off the lift into the side of another car in the shop (luckily no one was there or they could have been CRUSHED) and another time a guy forgot the safety use and we came in the next morning to see those stands they use to hold exhaust pipes up while they are being installed, clamped or welded poking up through the floor, dash and out the windshield. Again, someone could have been killed.

 

[NC_Overland]

Yup..........
Any other place means the whole weight of the FRAME, ENGINE, TRANSMISSION, DIFFERENTIALS, DRIVESHAFTS, STEERING GEAR, you name it, is all hanging by the body mount points.
All of the steering, suspension and whole drive-train, including engine and all, is attached to the frame, so lifting by any body part at all means everything is being lifted by the body mount points.

This is serious business, anyone not lifting by the frame is risking their truck and perhaps life.
Unless there are other specific lift or jacking points spelled out in the owner manual or TSM (technical service manual), the frame is the place to lift if using a hoist or vehicle lift.

Sometimes what people do as shade-tree internet "experts" scares the heck out of me.

I have also seen cars badly damaged by risky lifting, not using safeties, or not having thing balanced. In one case a car went forward off the lift into the side of another car in the shop (luckily no one was there or they could have been CRUSHED) and another time a guy forgot the safety use and we came in the next morning to see those stands they use to hold exhaust pipes up while they are being installed, clamped or welded poking up through the floor, dash and out the windshield. Again, someone could have been killed.

I’ve seen a car fall off a lift. My former co worker (not a tech) learned a tough lesson on his off day. I don’t remember the exact stupid mistake he did, but he was doing some front suspension work and destroyed the great deal he got on a clean ‘98 prelude trade in. It was a shame. It was a cool car that just needed a little love. Now they have new policies about work on personal vehicles. Luckily, no one got hurt.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I’ve seen a car fall off a lift. My former co worker (not a tech) learned a tough lesson on his off day. I don’t remember the exact stupid mistake he did, but he was doing some front suspension work and destroyed the great deal he got on a clean ‘98 prelude trade in. It was a shame. It was a cool car that just needed a little love. Now they have new policies about work on personal vehicles. Luckily, no one got hurt.

Ouch.
That sounds like it might be the same year, or close to, that my son's mother had, and my son drove for a while. It was black and a really nice car. Unfortunately, the Iowa winters were not good to the fenders, holes developed on the tops. I'm not a fan of all Hondas but the Prelude of that era was pretty nice. I know he was driving a 90-something Prelude and I liked the body styling.

 

[Jimmij]

Always lift by the frame.

 

[gt3mike]

Always lift by the frame.

That was definitely my plan. Happy to hear it strongly endorsed.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That was definitely my plan. Happy to hear it strongly endorsed.

Otherwise we may have to come do bodily harm - oh, wait, that's what we are trying to PREVENT!
Never mind.....

 

[Jaxmax]

I installed rear spacers on my Mojave and very recently swapped in Max Tow springs, both times used jack stands on frame and used floor jack under differential to lower it just enough to not stretch brake lines. It is a long way up to get the frame up high enough, my three ton floor jack would not get it up high enough, I used my “Safe Jack” bottle jack system which worked great. ….Jack

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I installed rear spacers on my Mojave and very recently swapped in Max Tow springs, both times used jack stands on frame and used floor jack under differential to lower it just enough to not stretch brake lines. It is a long way up to get the frame up high enough, my three ton floor jack would not get it up high enough, I used my “Safe Jack” bottle jack system which worked great. ….Jack

Oh, great. Jack used a jack and jack stands.
I wonder how much jack all that cost 'im.

 

[GEETCH]

I have used lifts on my jtr, I always use the frame. For the front I go just behind the control arm brackets, the rear just Infront of where the frame angles up for rear tires.

since I put on a full belly skid plate (steel) the pads of the lift go on the plate but I still use the same points of reference, so far zero issues and ive Had it on a lift several times over several hours.

 

[Jaxmax]

ShadowsPapa LOL! Yes and we have never met but if we did you would notice that I'm "Jacked"! Jack is about the most abused name in history, don't say "Hi Jack" on a plane, steal a car and my name is there again "car jacking", let's not even go to "Jack of all Trades", I'm an Electrician, Carpenters framing a wood house use Jack studs for door frames, and even write Jack on them in a pile, they got pissed when I thought they were mine! I see trucks on the highway with "Jack lives here" in big letters, I live in a small town called Bally. Why in God's name do they call some coats "Jackets", finally we all know what perverts do ,there is my name again! Final insult the other day I wrote my name on the shop calendar for a day off, and got called down to HR for being improper. What could be worse , being named after my Great grandfather the founder of a small truck manufacturer near my house....JACK MACK, high school was tough, everything rhymes with Jack, and finally, we all know I'm a "Jackass"!

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