JScan not clearing all codes

[Bluzboytroy]

Sorry guys I’m old and don’t understand the importance of some of theses questions ? but I’m learning.
I should have said the opening screen looks similar to the one you posted, it’s raining right now so I’ll go out and do a screen shot in the morning.
The reason the guy left it was it was repossessed for non payment so I don’t imagine he had the opportunity to remove much of anything .
Thank you all again I am learning.

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[ShadowsPapa]

The reason the guy left it was it was repossessed for non payment so I don’t imagine he had the opportunity to remove much of anything .

LOL - well, that sure explains a lot! They don't exactly welcome you to the lot to take whatever you want in such cases.

Sorry guys I’m old

Now this 66 year old feels young!

the basics -
In the past, it was shown as a "proof of concept" that Jeep or FCA vehicles could easily be hacked or modified with little effort - get into it, place an adapter, and be able to remotely control things like brakes, steering, engine and so on.
So they installed a firewall (It's a firewall to me, a former mechanic, yeah, but also a former government network security administrator - so it's a firewall in my mind)
That is what they call the Security Gateway Module, it prevents easily plugging an OBD adapter to the OBD diagnostic port and making changes or controlling the vehicle remotely. Well, prevent is a strong work, it makes it a lot more difficult for most.
So if you want to make changes to the vehicle, change some setting like tire size, type of lighting it has, or gear ratio or certain other things, you have to bypass that security gateway.
That orange cable allows you to bypass the security gateway and connect an OBD adapter directly into the system to not only take readings, check codes and so on, but also to make changes - like to the type of lights it has.

The OBDLink MX+ is a pretty high end, decent BlueTooth OBD adapter that allows you to use a phone or tablet, or laptop with software to diagnose things, or even make changes -if you use the bypass cable. I think those are selling for over $120 on Amazon at this point.
The cable with orange ends also isn't cheap. It needs to be in place to make changes to the light settings or whatever. But ideally, you'd not really drive around with it in there once you are all set and learn more about the vehicle.

Here is my own setup - showing AlfaOBD in this case, software similar to JSCAN -

And years ago I used it to configure auto-high beam for my 2020 before it was included in the safety group package. I bought in November and in December it was included, but I was able to activate it since my truck back then had the hardware for it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Old school, iffy, clunky, large footprint, Chrysler 12+8 Programming Cables, are laughable .. especially laughable, if you leave them dangling 24/7/365.

I don't disagree with much of what you say, and in fact "agree" would be a better word, but the cable is handy and easy especially if you do like I do when using it longer term for certain other things and diagnostics. It's really simple to use a velcro strap and hold it up behind the lower dash piece, strapped to the brace, it's clear out of the way and can't be seen unless you lay on the floor and look up, or run your hand up in there.
In fact, it's so easily forgotten that after a lot of diagnosing of the weird misfires I had with my 2022, I took it to the dealer for a look and just plain forgot it was there.
When I got my JT back, they had put the MX+ and cable nicely in the bottom of my console. Not a word was said. But then............ maybe they know me and my truck by now? (Tony can be a turkey sometimes but Jake and a couple of others know what I do)
So I can't really fully agree that it's bulky, etc. - it's a cheap, easy, way to get into using software like JSCAN and AlfaOBD and can easily be tucked up and strapped to the brace up under the dash (just don't forget it's there like I did)
Do remember to remove any bypass device or cable, or even Tazer, when taking it to a dealership for much of anything.

No matter what you go with - bypass cable, ECRI or other bypass "module", I highly recommend the extension cables as on some of these JTs.
I strongly recommend the extensions sold by ZAutomotive if you do much if this sort of thing. They are a one and done thing, you leave them in place so you never have to reach up to the security gateway module again to plug cables back in.
It's not all that easy to get cables plugged back in as many here have discovered and complained about. There are differences in these trucks and some seem to be worse than others, and then there's the owner's age, health, finger dexterity and more to consider - those who say it's easy need to have a finger or two smashed and just wait until they get older and let them eat those words. (I've little patience for such folks who believe the health and physical capabilities of everyone in the world is as perfect as they are.)

There are a lot of schematics and info out there on making your own bypass - it's really quite simple, I just never went that far, and by the time you buy the connectors and take the time, might as well buy the ECRI unit which isn't much different than the cost of a cable - so there's that as well.
I went with the MX+ as I found the cheaper one I had couldn't access certain areas I wanted to poke around in, and I figured, like my wife says - get the best you can as you'll run into a time when the cheaper won't work for you.
I use JSCAN and AlfaOBD, depending on what I'm doing. The AlfaOBD logging is vastly superior, it's capture of freeze frames makes JSCAN's logs look like a joke. JSCAN leaves so many blank lines and has so many duplicate lines and extraneous numbers in the logs - yes, I can give examples of the differences and how messy JSCAN logs are.
But if you aren't doing a lot of diagnosing and logging, JSCAN is great, compact, handy and they do keep up with things.

 

[whysoserious]

Any update @Bluzboytroy ?

 

[Bluzboytroy]

No it rained all day yesterday and I worked today until 7:00pm so haven’t had a chance to get back at it. Thank you for checking in on me, may be another day or two before I get to it

 

[Bluzboytroy]

Ok tried the suggestion in the thread about and followed the instructions. I’ve attached a screen shot of the opening page so I think it is all good. After doing the recommended changes I went back to the body module and found all the codes on the next picture, I hit delete and they all went away except for the same two in last picture which are the ones that I haven’t been able to clear. Of course the dash warning still comes up and says rear turn signals out.

 

[whysoserious]

Couple thoughts. I am thinking that those two might just be permanent codes at this point. And unless Jeep is different, you can't clear a permanent code, either via the OBD port or disconnecting the battery. You have to fix the problem that is throwing the code before the computer will self clear it. And that usually takes numerous start cycles before that happens, after the fix. It can be very frustrating.

Have you thought about contacting Oracle Lighting to see if they have a solution for you? Are the rear turn lamps actually working or not? If they are working, it could take a while to clear the codes. If not working, Oracle may have some ideas as well.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Couple thoughts. I am thinking that those two might just be permanent codes at this point. And unless Jeep is different, you can't clear a permanent code, either via the OBD port or disconnecting the battery. You have to fix the problem that is throwing the code before the computer will self clear it. And that usually takes numerous start cycles before that happens, after the fix. It can be very frustrating.

Have you thoughts about contacting Oracle Lighting to see if they have a solution for you? Are the rear turn lamps lights actually working or not? If they are working, it could take a while to clear the codes. If not working, Oracle may have some ideas as well.

Yeah, that's related to my questions - are all functions of the rear lights working on both sides?
When you have codes - it usually means you have a problem. Unless a person installed them personally, they have no idea if the wiring is crap or poorly done or what.

First thing - make sure every function of both side rear lights works. Brake, turn, tail, etc.
Don't assume that because the turn signals work that the brake lights will - not on modern vehicles.

I'd then also pull a light out away from the body and look at the connections.
Don't assume the person who installed them did anything correctly or that if they did, things stayed that way.

Next step - Oracle support.

 

[Bluzboytroy]

Yes I’ve checked and thankfully all functions are working properly on both sides, I have tail lights, brake lights and turn signals.
So I’ll pull each light and see what the connections look like and contact Oracle if all is good. Thank y’all again for being so patient with me and my lack of computer knowledge. I’ve also unplugged the OBDLink instead of it being plugged in all the time. I miss my old CJ5 ?

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