Leaking axle seal?

[ShadowsPapa]

Not the entire axle assembly, for some reason the service advisor and other folks have called it a "housing". I had to clarify with the service advisor that its the right shaft not the differential housing. I could not imagine the right axle housing being replaced since its a pressed fit and all.

No kidding! Pressed fit and not a simple thing to do. Well, I've seen some axle tubes twisted loose from drag racing but that's another story...........

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[ShadowsPapa]

https://www.downthunder.com.au/forum/Jeep/Jeep-Gladiator/Jeep-Gladiator-2021-Rear-Axle-Seal-Issues

Imagine the issues our Aussie friends must be having - trying to get parts.............

 

[JeepTaco]

Well, I've seen some axle tubes twisted loose from drag racing but that's another story...........

Now thats some torque! Haven't seen tubes twisted loose but have seen some drive shafts shear and flop around smacking everything in their path lol.

 

[JeepTaco]

https://www.downthunder.com.au/forum/Jeep/Jeep-Gladiator/Jeep-Gladiator-2021-Rear-Axle-Seal-Issues

Imagine the issues our Aussie friends must be having - trying to get parts.............

I read through the post and he mentioned "american gladiator forums" the first thing that came to mind was...

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Now thats some torque! Haven't seen tubes twisted loose but have seen some drive shafts shear and flop around smacking everything in their path lol.

When I updated the front brakes on my 73 Javelin to disks, I decided the brakes were so bad I'd replace all lines, all hoses, everything. I had to add a combo valve anyway. So I was under the car and wonder what the heck was up with the brake lines under there - some unions that didn't belong and what the heck - I figured the drive shaft had busted loose and whipped the bottom of the tunnel denting the crap out of it and it had ripped the brake lines off the floor under there when the prior owner had it.

 

[JeepTaco]

When I updated the front brakes on my 73 Javelin to disks, I decided the brakes were so bad I'd replace all lines, all hoses, everything. I had to add a combo valve anyway. So I was under the car and wonder what the heck was up with the brake lines under there - some unions that didn't belong and what the heck - I figured the drive shaft had busted loose and whipped the bottom of the tunnel denting the crap out of it and it had ripped the brake lines off the floor under there when the prior owner had it.

Sounds like a good theory for what happened to to the prior owner of your Javelin.
When I used to wrench for a living, I still recall an older gentleman tell me that we are the like detectives. Always looking for clues to find the root cause of a failure.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Sounds like a good theory for what happened to to the prior owner of your Javelin.
When I used to wrench for a living, I still recall an older gentleman tell me that we are the like detectives. Always looking for clues to find the root cause of a failure.

Exactly - forensics work in a way. I was wondering why in the heck the guy had done what he did with the brake lines, then saw the dented floor, ripped out line clamps.
The better you are with forensics and detective work, the better you'll be at troubleshooting and finding the root cause, instead of tossing parts at something until it works (or adding something to cover an underlying problem that only gets worse later - but you'll never know because of the band-aid)

I'd still love to get my hands on one of these leaking axles.

 

[Rusty PW]

Exactly - forensics work in a way. I was wondering why in the heck the guy had done what he did with the brake lines, then saw the dented floor, ripped out line clamps.
The better you are with forensics and detective work, the better you'll be at troubleshooting and finding the root cause, instead of tossing parts at something until it works (or adding something to cover an underlying problem that only gets worse later - but you'll never know because of the band-aid)

I'd still love to get my hands on one of these leaking axles.

You and me both.

 

[rm1515]

Mine is being replaced as we speak. They are replacing the whole shaft. Hopefully this fixes all my issues.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

 

[jac04]

No kidding! Pressed fit and not a simple thing to do. Well, I've seen some axle tubes twisted loose from drag racing but that's another story...........

Pressed & plug welded, but there have been several reports of tubes twisted within the center section on the JK forums. It's one of the reasons my JK has a custom-built D44 rear end with heavier tubes that are fully welded to the center section.

 

[Rusty PW]

Pressed & plug welded, but there have been several reports of tubes twisted within the center section on the JK forums. It's one of the reasons my JK has a custom-built D44 rear end with heavier tubes that are fully welded to the center section.

I welded the tubes on my Power Wagon. Seen plug welds that filled the hole, but never had any penetration on the tubes. And the tubes pulled out.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Pressed & plug welded, but there have been several reports of tubes twisted within the center section on the JK forums. It's one of the reasons my JK has a custom-built D44 rear end with heavier tubes that are fully welded to the center section.

Like seen here -

 

[jac04]

Like seen here -

No, those are the 'standard' plug welds. I'm talking about fillet welds where the tubes meet the center section. However, I also had the factory plug welds completely excavated and re-welded properly. As Rusty PW mentioned, these plug welds often lack penetration.

This is the only picture I could find right now showing the weld:

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That weld where the tube meets the center casting is what some racers have done but some prefer not to because it's a stress area. Most clear out the other welds and do it properly because like you say, many lack penetration into the tube, they only meld with the casting.

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