Left-Foot Braking And BLD (Brake Lock Differential)

[TexasProud]

Jumping to insults shows that you cannot refute my points with logic and facts. Grand Theft Auto School of Driving is hardly a good argument for one-footed driving. Your other argument is that the internet basically thinks some people are too uncoordinated to know what their feet are doing and might press both pedals at the same time. I've heard that argument before and I say anyone who is that uncoordinated or is afraid they might do that should take that advice and drive with one foot.

25mph = 37 ft/s. If I see an iffy situation ahead, I hover my foot over the brake. If I need to brake suddenly, it saves that 1/2 second a one-footed driver takes moving from accelerator to brake. I gain an additional 17 feet of braking. You might quibble on whether it is actually 1/2 second but, whatever you think it is, it decreases the reaction time.



I can't see that when panic braking unless the person is so panicked they forget to lift their right foot. Those people probably should be one-footed drivers.

The counter argument is I think it is pretty assured that the one-footed drivers are the ones who accidentally press the accelerator and slam into storefronts thinking their foot is on the brake. A two-footed driver could never do that (with an automatic).

You are proving my last statement, I would say open mouth and insert foot, but at this point, you are choking on your knee.

In a panic braking, if you have trained your left foot to brake, and you are about to rear-end someone, you are gonna stand up as far as you can, with both feet on the pedals.

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[TexasProud]

I think the issue lies with physics. When you emergency panic brake,, your whole body lunges forward, including your leg and feet. If your right foot was resting on top of the accelerator, then you would inadvertently push down on it.

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[Badunit]

In a panic braking, if you have trained your left foot to brake, and you are about to rear-end someone, you are gonna stand up as far as you can, with both feet on the pedals.

Maybe you would. Don't project your panic behaviour on me. Stick to one-footed driving if you think you would stand on the accelerator. I think one-footed driving is less than optimal and two-footed has inherent advantages but I'm not pushing it on anyone. I'm actually really surprised it is such a controversial topic for you, like I've insulted your mother or something.

 

[TexasProud]

Maybe you would. Don't project your panic behaviour on me. Stick to one-footed driving if you think you would stand on the accelerator. I think one-footed driving is less than optimal and two-footed has inherent advantages but I'm not pushing it on anyone. I'm actually really surprised it is such a controversial topic for you, like I've insulted your mother or something.

Just how old are you.

I picture you as one of the drivers I hate, cutting in and out of traffic, riding everyone's ass, risking everyone's lives. Thinking they can drive better than everyone else on the road.

I have been driving for 58 years, got my hardship driving license so I could drive to work when I was 15, got my commercial license the day I turned 17, I drove over the road for over a million miles in loaded trucks, my first couple of Harley Davidsons I built from parts, and they were foot clutch, hand shift, and hand throttle.

You did not insult my Mother, she is long dead, but were she here, she would tell you to never brake with you left foot, always use your right foot, take it off the gas, and brake with it, so you can maintain control of the vehicle.

You asked the question, I answered the question, then showed that I did not dream up the reason, and yes you are pushing it on everyone. I pity everyone who rides with you, and every driver around you. You must know more than the instructors in your driving class, you must know more than the troopers that give the tests for getting a driving license, you must know more than the people who wrote the driving instruction manuals, you have convinced me, we are all stupid,,,,,,, and you know it all.

 

[sharpsicle]

Enough you two.

I found someone did the research on this a few years back and the results were a good read. I'd suggest buying their article and reading up on it. Wish I could find it, if I do I'll link it.

EDIT: Here it is! https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jmld/3/1/article-p1.xml

 

[GeneralMaximus]

Enough you two.

I found someone did the research on this a few years back and the results were a good read. I'd suggest buying their article and reading up on it. Wish I could find it, if I do I'll link it.

EDIT: Here it is! https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jmld/3/1/article-p1.xml

I read the two free pages and didn’t see any mention of the physics involved in an emergency braking scenario. Only mention of the longer reaction time it takes for your non dominant (left) foot to hit the brakes.

Anyone who’s been in a real life emergency braking situation can attest to the physics of being thrown forward as the car comes to a screeching halt. The seatbelt cinches down as your whole body gets thrown forwards a few inches. But has anyone measured how far that right foot would move forward, had it been resting on top of the accelerator?.

 

[TexasProud]

Enough you two.

I found someone did the research on this a few years back and the results were a good read. I'd suggest buying their article and reading up on it. Wish I could find it, if I do I'll link it.

EDIT: Here it is! https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jmld/3/1/article-p1.xml

Ok,,,,,,, I'm sorry,,,,,, sniffling,,, walking away with my head hung low 🥹

 

[sharpsicle]

I read the two free pages and didn’t see any mention of the physics involved in an emergency braking scenario. Only mention of the longer reaction time it takes for your non dominant (left) foot to hit the brakes.

Anyone who’s been in a real life emergency braking situation can attest to the physics of being thrown forward as the car comes to a screeching halt. The seatbelt cinches down as your whole body gets thrown forwards a few inches. But has anyone measured how far that right foot would move forward, had it been resting on top of the accelerator?.

Oh I'm sorry. I guess since the author didn't address a specific question of yours in the top 2 pages, he must not have addressed it at all....

 

[Badunit]

Enough you two.

I found someone did the research on this a few years back and the results were a good read. I'd suggest buying their article and reading up on it.

https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/jmld/3/1/article-p1.xml

Funny how that article begins with " A heated debate has occurred concerning ...".

It is hard to stop responding immediately after a bunch of falsehoods about who I am as a person and a driver but this "debate" went from a simple post to a complete mess faster than an oil viscosity thread. So... point well made. Zipping my lip.

 

[GeneralMaximus]

Oh I'm sorry. I guess since the author didn't address a specific question of yours in the top 2 pages, he must not have addressed it at all....

No need to apologize, unless you’re the author, of course. In which case, no your mocking my post wont motivate me to buy your silly (non)scientific study!

 

[Blade1668]

To stir this pot on driving with R foot for accelerator pedal and left for braking. Many of the people who do this rest the foot on the pedal enough to activate the brake lights and the actual brake pads to drums/ disk rotors. This also causes brake lights bulbs to prematurely burn out. I happened to be stuck behind some assclown last Friday for many miles. Yes the person wouldn't get out of the left lane and get beside the traffic in R. lane then slow down, for probably 50-70 miles I could smell the vehicles brakes even.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I don't know why people are taught to brake with their right foot with an automatic. I use two feet, on-road and off. Always have. While no need to modulate it on pavement (maybe when starting on a really steep hill), if I think someone might pull out in front of me or brake suddenly I'll position my foot over the brake to save that split second a one-footed driver would require to go from gas to brake. 25mph = 37 ft/sec so half a second better response means you're braking 17.5 feet earlier.

Because it's easier to go from MT to AT and back and forth. It's been that way forever. It's truly safer.
If you know right foot is ALWAYS brake, you can't mess up.
I've seen two footed drivers press BOTH pedals in a panic. If your muscle memory is to use the right foot, you can't do that. You must move away from the gas.
Two footed driving also means you have to move your left foot over to the brake. So I see no real difference there unless you ride the brake pedal constantly. You can't plan for every contingency, so if someone blows a light or sign or cuts across in front of you or smacks the brakes, you still must move a foot -either from the floor to the brake or from the gas to the brake.

People braking with left foot often tend to rest that foot on the brake. I've followed a few of those people. Get your freakin' foot off the brake and drive!. (you can smell the brakes)

You are in the minority for sure on that. It goes back to when before you were born, and has been taught in schools and driver education businesses for decades.

 

[Supazuk]

Maybe you would. Don't project your panic behaviour on me. Stick to one-footed driving if you think you would stand on the accelerator. I think one-footed driving is less than optimal and two-footed has inherent advantages but I'm not pushing it on anyone. I'm actually really surprised it is such a controversial topic for you, like I've insulted your mother or something.

Do you drink your water from the back of the toilet?

 

[Badunit]

Do you drink your water from the back of the toilet?

The best you can do for a reply is a childish insult? And same for TexasProud who responded with a laughing emoji. For people who claim to be grown up, you sure don't act it. Post something of substance. Support your argument. Refute what I say with a logical response. Childish insults don't cut it.

Panic braking seems to be the biggest argument against two-footed driving and it has all been about how "other drivers" or "people" would react. If you (any of you against left-foot braking) had learned left-footed braking from the start do you think you , personally, would be unable to panic brake correctly as a two-footed driver and would press both pedals? Just curious if you all think this inability to correctly operate the pedals with two feet in a panic situation is a universal human trait or just "other drivers". If you think it is everyone, including yourself, then I respectfully accept your opinion as yours and we can agree to disagree.

If anyone has spent years doing right-footed braking, it would probably be dangerous to switch at this point; no argument from me there. That does not prove it is the best technique, only that you learned one way and it is difficult to change. I'm not going to try changing either, for the same reason.

Even if a person's body "lunges forward" when braking (which was one of the arguments), you can still lift your right foot. Our vehicles don't brake that hard.

Do any of you really "stand up as far as you can" when panic braking? That is truly panicking. Stiffening up like that makes it hard to control. In the days before power assisted and disc brakes we might have had to "stand on the brake", but not now.

 

[TexasProud]

The best you can do for a reply is a childish insult? And same for TexasProud who responded with a laughing emoji. For people who claim to be grown up, you sure don't act it. Post something of substance. Support your argument. Refute what I say with a logical response. Childish insults don't cut it.

Panic braking seems to be the biggest argument against two-footed driving and it has all been about how "other drivers" or "people" would react. If you (any of you against left-foot braking) had learned left-footed braking from the start do you think you , personally, would be unable to panic brake correctly as a two-footed driver and would press both pedals? Just curious if you all think this inability to correctly operate the pedals with two feet in a panic situation is a universal human trait or just "other drivers". If you think it is everyone, including yourself, then I respectfully accept your opinion as yours and we can agree to disagree.

If anyone has spent years doing right-footed braking, it would probably be dangerous to switch at this point; no argument from me there. That does not prove it is the best technique, only that you learned one way and it is difficult to change. I'm not going to try changing either, for the same reason.

Even if a person's body "lunges forward" when braking (which was one of the arguments), you can still lift your right foot. Our vehicles don't brake that hard.

Do any of you really "stand up as far as you can" when panic braking? That is truly panicking. Stiffening up like that makes it hard to control. In the days before power assisted and disc brakes we might have had to "stand on the brake", but not now.

I got shamed for insinuating you were stupid, so I will not repeat myself, go back and re-read everything I wrote. I did find when Supazuk said: Do you drink your water from the back of the toilet? humorous, picturing you drinking from the back of your toilet, trying to wash out the taste of your foot.

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