Mojave owners - do you ever wish you had a front locker?

[cb4017]

I would start looking now. Go to the Jeep website and search for Gladiators around your zip. I bought mine last month.
Dealer had a discount. Jeep had a discount. I had a military discount. And because I had been looking on the Jeep website, they sent me an email with an additional $1,250 discount.
Bottom line I got a $58k Mojave for $44.5K with no haggling.

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[GeekJT]

If you own a Mojave, have you ever gotten in an off-road situation where having a front locker would have helped you?
I have read that a front locker is useful when wheeling in mud. I have little experience off-roading, that's why I'm asking.

I think the same question could be asked of the sway bar disconnect.

From my questions I guess you know I'm trying to decide between a Mojave and Rubicon.

I thought about this alot before I bought mine.

I broke it down to this.

Mojave only upgrades are
Beefed up frame, beefed up axles, stronger iron knuckles, 2.5 inch fox shocks, and faster geared transfer case and sits slightly higher from the factory suspension lift and half inch better ground clearance, and half inch wider track over the Rubicon.

Mojave only missing front locker and sway bar disconnect.

So i thought, man i can add a front electric locker easy and tie it into aux button 4, and either quick disconnect or electric sway bar if needed tie it into aux button 3.

EASY upgrades if I ever want.

But if I bought a beautiful Rubi, and i do love'em. I can't "beef up" the frame, the axles, etc. Or would require considerable work to do. Who doesn't upgrade the Rubi's suspension?

It was a no brainer for me. Yeah like if you do some hardcore rock stuff, ok. But the Majave will do 95% of what the rubi will do. hell i didn't even have lockers in my 2013 wrangler sahara and i would just creep along with the Rubi broz, sure, 2, 3 maybe 10 times i had to winch out, but who cares, was a ton of fun.

But the bottom line is, I actually use the Mojave for what it does far more than I'm ever in rocks. So it really comes down to what you do most.

But I test drove them both, and the Mojave out of the box just drives so much better on and off-road. man aired down to even 20psi and it's so smooth.

So it was an easy pick for me. The Mojave isn't missing anything for what it was built for. The Rubi and Mojave are just different purpose built trucks. You don't think of the rubi as missing mojave stuff? Even know it's be great if it had it right? I don't think of the Mojave as missing things the rubi has, the Mojave has what it needs for high speed off-roading.

Anyways just my thought process on it, I thought about it for a while, like months before I bought.

 

[Stan H]

I thought about this alot before I bought mine.

I broke it down to this.

Mojave only upgrades are
Beefed up frame, beefed up axles, stronger iron knuckles, 2.5 inch fox shocks, and faster geared transfer case and sits slightly higher from the factory suspension lift and half inch better ground clearance, and half inch wider track over the Rubicon.

Mojave only missing front locker and sway bar disconnect.

So i thought, man i can add a front electric locker easy and tie it into aux button 4, and either quick disconnect or electric sway bar if needed tie it into aux button 3.

EASY upgrades if I ever want.

But if I bought a beautiful Rubi, and i do love'em. I can't "beef up" the frame, the axles, etc. Or would require considerable work to do. Who doesn't upgrade the Rubi's suspension?

It was a no brainer for me. Yeah like if you do some hardcore rock stuff, ok. But the Majave will do 95% of what the rubi will do. hell i didn't even have lockers in my 2013 wrangler sahara and i would just creep along with the Rubi broz, sure, 2, 3 maybe 10 times i had to winch out, but who cares, was a ton of fun.

But the bottom line is, I actually use the Mojave for what it does far more than I'm ever in rocks. So it really comes down to what you do most.

But I test drove them both, and the Mojave out of the box just drives so much better on and off-road. man aired down to even 20psi and it's so smooth.

So it was an easy pick for me. The Mojave isn't missing anything for what it was built for. The Rubi and Mojave are just different purpose built trucks. You don't think of the rubi as missing mojave stuff? Even know it's be great if it had it right? I don't think of the Mojave as missing things the rubi has, the Mojave has what it needs for high speed off-roading.

Anyways just my thought process on it, I thought about it for a while, like months before I bought.

All that stuff is easily bought and upgraded . And Mojave and Rubicon have the same Dana 44 wide track axles. One with aluminum knuckles the other steel which are identical copies just different material ask @WILDHOBO He already put steel ones ( the aren't iron ) on his. But the aluminum ones are very tough.
This so called beefed frame .. not one pic has anyone ever shown on here. . Possible a couple extra gussets and welds. The mojaves transfer case 2.72 :1 was geared in conjunction with the 4.10 gears to give a faster pace in the low side while traveling on Sand.

 

[GeekJT]

All that stuff is easily bought and upgraded . And Mojave and Rubicon have the same Dana 44 wide track axles. One with aluminum knuckles the other steel which are identical copies just different material ask @WILDHOBO He already put steel ones ( the aren't iron ) on his. But the aluminum ones are very tough.
This so called beefed frame .. not one pic has anyone ever shown on here. . Possible a couple extra gussets and welds. The mojaves transfer case 2.72 :1 was geared in conjunction with the 4.10 gears to give a faster pace in the low side while traveling on Sand.

I mean, i'm talking about of the box.

Yes you could buy a complete fox 2.5 kit, it's about 3300-ish.

You can look up the track width on jeep site, it's half in wider on the mojave. Half in a big deal? I mean not really in the grand scheme of things, but if you are building the mojave, you'd give it as much width as you can. Is 64 inch to 65 inch something you'd notice if they both had the same suspension? Hmm, perhaps that subjective, i think it'd be hard to quantify it.

The mojaves transfer case 2.72 :1 was geared in conjunction with the 4.10 gears to give a faster pace in the low side while traveling on Sand.

True, it also gives you a 4xHI locker enabled higher speed in any gear. Which is where you use the mojave, think 40, 50, 60, 80mph across the beach, sand, dessert, which I've tested much and it's insanely fun.

Out of the box can the rubicon do it? Absolutely not. Not even close. it wasn't built for it. That was my point, they are purpose built for a given type of off road. The Rubi is great at what it was made for.

But if you haven't ridden in a mojave in the type of off-road it's made for, then you just won't understand it. It just soaks it up. Washboards, you just do 40, 50 whatever across them and it soaks it all up. I was on some washboards today in it, and couldn't believe it. Literally no shake in the cab just like floating across them on a cloud.

Hey I'm not bashing the Rubi at all. I love'em, they are amazing at what they are built for. But I'm purely talking about out of the box performance. I think Jeep did an amazing thing, they compliment each other. But you can literally buy a stock mojave and go do what it's built for just like the rubi.

But don't think the mojave is "a little faster in some sand" bro I'm flying across the dunes, jumping stuff, like stuff you would never normally think of doing in a jeep. I think you dismiss it to easily. Maybe because you haven't been in one doing what it's made for.

 

[ecidiego]

Track width comes solely from the Mojave rim offset, easily done elsewhere. Axles are identical to Rubicon.

 

[GeekJT]

Track width comes solely from the Mojave rim offset, easily done elsewhere. Axles are identical to Rubicon.

LOL missing the point. Out of the box. Yes of course we can do mods and an inch isn't *really* changing anything in the grand scheme of things, but it is a difference "out of the box". The lift is what determines the offset geometry. Slapping the same offset on the rubi "out of the box" would ever so slightly change it's geometry.

 

[GeekJT]

I was surfing YT videos looking for Mojave reviews. I came across this Driving Sports video that
shows the Mojave in action. See the rock course at 18:18 ? That's the limit I would take my Mojave on.
Nothing more extreme than that. And the Mojave did just fine.

I think my first mod would be 35" tires. I won't buy right away, as I want to see if Jeep offers
and end of the year deals.

My bone stock 2013 Sahara would do the same junk the rubi's were doing, that bit of rock would be nothing for a rubi or mohave you'd have to get a LOT more extreme than that to even push the Mojave's limits. I mean the mojave even has slightly better clearance than the rubi.

Me thinks most of you guys have never been to moab, or rock crawling much. A stock sahara will do most things, the traction control on them are pretty dang good. Will you do it fancy and slow like a rubi, No of course not, the rubi was made for that stuff and does it with class.

 

[Volt0]

Early on, as a first time off-road enthusiast, I fancied the idea of a Mojavicon. Now, a few scratches later, having the t-case wore in, and a few settle mods, I’m good. With the exception of bumping up to 35x11.5 tires, I’m still mostly stock, and I’m sure that it would do more than I’ll ask it to. I might add some lights, and eventually I might add a winch … to help skin a deer

 

[NC_Overland]

I have never needed a front locker, but occasionally have used the rear locker on my Mojave. I like the seats, suspension, 2.72 low, iron knuckles of the Mojave.

I had 4:1 on my JKU Rubicon and I wouldn’t have liked it if it wasn’t a 6 speed. I skipped first, second, and third gear often in 4LO.

 

[Stan H]

I had 4:1 on my JKU Rubicon and I wouldn’t have liked it if it wasn’t a 6 speed. I skipped first, second, and third gear often in 4LO.

What your implying definitely comes into play , but in the automatic Transmission with the Rubicon if your on a easy road use the manual side and just bump up quickly its easy. It will also in low side start in 2nd gear on its own you have to bump down into 1st gear if you desire a deep low crawl .

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