Mopar 2" kit Stab link measurements

[The Yeti]

Looking to make some changes on the cheaper route vs what I have now. Wondering if someone that has a Mopar 2" kit can measure their front stab links and let me know? I found a measurement someone posted on here for the rears being 13" center to center but nothing for the fronts. I have aftermarket fronts already and what looks to be a 2-2.5" spacer etc. So wondering if I can keep some of what I have when putting the Mopar coils on and save some cash in the short term.
Just looking for the measurements. Can, have and will be searching for other answers along the way but can't find this answer in a search so far. Much appreciated and thanks in advance

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[Whiteoak323]

I bought the 2" kit front and rear links to go with my Metalcloak 2.5 springs. Will see how they do with the setup.
I went out and measured.
Front 7.500 Center to Center
Rear 13.125 Center to Center

 

[The Yeti]

Thank you kindly brother. Much appreciated.

 

[The Yeti]

Late response, but I'm just curious how those are working out for you? Also do you have a Sport, S, Willy, Rubi...?
I actually went out the next day and measured what I have on mine. Front stab links measured 10" and rear measured 10 3/4", measured from center of bolt to center of bolt. Im guessing (purely a guess) that my rear is stock (maybe) and the front are aftermarket from whatever spacer lift is on the thing when I bought it. Im thinking if I buy the Mopar 2" coils(with the lower "isolators") I can keep the front links I have and buy the Mopar rear links and be good to go. Of course, I would dotch the shock extensions and get longer shocks too, but thats a whole new discussion so I'll leave that outa the mix for now. Thoughts? Am I on the right track or is there something else to consider here?

 

[Whiteoak323]

I haven't utilized mine yet. I bought them to run with 2.5" MC coils and that might come back to bite me.
Your theory sounds on par. If you run the 2" front coils and utilize your aftermarket front links. As long as the sway bar is parallel or angled just (little) downwards, you should be good to go.

 

[The Yeti]

Well, my stab bar is currently not even close to level and is angled upwards by probably a few inches from level. Thia is with the 2-2.5" spacer above the coil (but with a steel bumper & winch). Sounds liek I need a lift haha. Not sure the Mopar 2" coils would be enough with the angle I'm looking at though. So it should be level to slightly down then?

 

[Whiteoak323]

Well, my stab bar is currently not even close to level and is angled upwards by probably a few inches from level. Thia is with the 2-2.5" spacer above the coil (but with a steel bumper & winch). Sounds liek I need a lift haha. Not sure the Mopar 2" coils would be enough with the angle I'm looking at though. So it should be level to slightly down then?

Right. Level is the preferred setup. Sounds like the previous kit maybe had too long of links. Other idea is if there was a bunch of added front bumper weight that is pushing the suspension downwards. New coils could help with that as well.

 

[Camaroboi13]

Pretty sure it should be level to about 10 degrees up, not down. If yours are slightly up you’re probably fine. Ideally they should be parallel in the middle of your travel. Don’t forget, the middle of your travel is probably not what you have sitting on level pavement. You may have 7 inches of up travel but 10 inches of down travel.

 

[Whiteoak323]

Pretty sure it should be level to about 10 degrees up, not down. If yours are slightly up you’re probably fine. Ideally they should be parallel in the middle of your travel. Don’t forget, the middle of your travel is probably not what you have sitting on level pavement. You may have 7 inches of up travel but 10 inches of down travel.

This makes a lot of sense. Sense you have the potential for so much downward travel.

 

[The Yeti]

Well in previous rigs Ive always bought the links that match the lift. Never thought twice about it. This info makes sense not that I read it. The Jeep came with whatever suspension additions it has. I assumed it was stock when I bought it with low miles biught July 23' (its a 21' 80th anniversary). Learning about these things (first Jeep) I see you can really mix and match and create your own build is pretty sweet BUT, I know enough to know you gota understand the why before you can do anything correctly. Im guessing now when I add the Mopar coils I'll need to get their shorter links too. So now wondering if the coils will change the distance between the bumpstops at all? I have next to no clearance like maybe 1.5 to 2" tops from the spacer to the bumpstop (not a factory bumpstop). Was planning on buying some longer shocks first since Inhad the spacers then the coils later but maybe the shoco extensions on it now are hurting more than helping...?

 

[Camaroboi13]

Well in previous rigs Ive always bought the links that match the lift. Never thought twice about it. This info makes sense not that I read it. The Jeep came with whatever suspension additions it has. I assumed it was stock when I bought it with low miles biught July 23' (its a 21' 80th anniversary). Learning about these things (first Jeep) I see you can really mix and match and create your own build is pretty sweet BUT, I know enough to know you gota understand the why before you can do anything correctly. Im guessing now when I add the Mopar coils I'll need to get their shorter links too. So now wondering if the coils will change the distance between the bumpstops at all? I have next to no clearance like maybe 1.5 to 2" tops from the spacer to the bumpstop (not a factory bumpstop). Was planning on buying some longer shocks first since Inhad the spacers then the coils later but maybe the shoco extensions on it now are hurting more than helping...?

Right now I wouldn’t do anything until you figure out what the end goal is for your rig. If you plan on lifting later then why buy coils now, or shocks or anything for that matter. Figure out what your end result should look like before buying parts twice. If it looks funky now but everything works then let it look funky for a while. You won’t know what you want/need till you go out there and start setting trails on fire. I knew from the get go that I would be chasing trails in Moab and running the Rubicon, so I went to a 4.5” lift and 37s. Not the route everyone takes, but it’s what worked for me. Measure twice, cut once.

 

[The Yeti]

I have 35's on the way. The plan is Mopar 2" coils no plans to lift after that. Staying within "stock like specs", for the looks mainly just to compensate for the sag at this point. After finding out the suspension wasn't stock it kinda made me start searching more to help me make a more inforsmed decision. I wont be doing any Rock crawling. Im in Central Canada in the prairies we get snow and can get a lot of it. My wheeling, will be snow wheeling. Its a daily driver but I go out on some old unmaintained roads & areas with my dogs every day year round winter summer, 365 days a year we get out there when I get off work. Trying to do the "build" on the cheapest route knowijg what I need vs my plan. Now that I know the links on the rig are too long (wasn't expecting that being they would've come with a kit, I'm sure) I'm kinda sorting it all out. My bumper weighs about 72lbs winch is a smitty 9k with steel line so I can google and edit this post shortly but Im assuming this isnt an uncommon weight set up by any means. Suprised on the amount of sag I assume I must have when looking at the bump stop vs bump stop extension (2-2.5" or so) and wondering about the 2" or so shock extensions and if they are currently necessary now after this newly learned knowledge. I bottomed out hard the other day for the first time on a pot hole on a grid road and felt it hit. Assuming it was the bump stop and not the shock (hopfully) but the decision is thete but weigjing all things now that I learned a bit more.

Edit: winch with steel line shows as 78lbs so bumper plus winch would be about 153 lbs less whatever the stocker weighs for the gain in weight to the front to ad the sag.

 

[Camaroboi13]

Toss up a photo of how it sits now. If you’re just looking to level it out there’s always cheap options as well as good/better/best options too. Show us what your suspension looks like too if you can.

 

[The Yeti]

I cant post the pics from my phone with this forum for some reason not near my laptop at the moment. Ive posted in other threads but ai will when I can. The cheap option is already on the rig. Looks to be a 2.5" spaceron the front, rear im not sure if there is anything 100% or not but there is rake from back to front which I prefer. Level is not my style I like some rake becuase thats how it should be and when I tow spmething (light these things aint meant for towing much) or put somthing in the bed it should have some play and not look like a dog dragging its ass along the carpet. After doing the research, so far, my cheap option is the Mopar 2" coils. Like $150 ish per coil (Canada, gota love it) vs whayever else(ya price it out in US then a Canadian site). So mot just looking to level, at all. Just set up the suspension right woth what I got + the tires ill have in a minute. Thought my suspension was unmolelsted and all good until I realized it's not. So those Mopar 2" coils should suit me, .... maybe
...? Can't imagine i need some kinda big lift coils just because I have a bumper n winch. Most guys say they get a half inch sag. I didnt take before and after measurements (again, assumed I was stock until I found out otherwise), wish I did though.
Was actually gona buy some cheap Rancho Mt's for now for a longer setup, then buy the clils and be good not ans the. Once I get the coils on but second guessing that now...

 

[The Yeti]

Here's some pic's to show what I'm dealing with. Very limited down travel on the front with a, what measures out to 2.25-2.5" spaced above the front coil and a shock extension that measures 2" ish. Not real sure what's going on in the back (first JEEP) but looks like lower bump stop spacer, unsure of the coil spacer or not on the back..?
I'm thinking remove the spacer and add the Mopar 2" coils and longer shocks/stab bar links. Being I have a 80 Anniversary (similar to a Sport S from what I gather here) I would likely get closer to 3" from the 2" coils and then facotring in whatever sag I have from the bumper, I'll assume 1" for an even number to wrap my head around all this, and then i would be good.... Thoughts?

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