New 2.0 Hurricane Turbo 4 engine announced (324 hp / 332 lb-ft)

[ChrisNLA]

Are we comparing gas engines, or are diesels now dragged into it?

I don't see anything wrong with dragging diesels into it to keep this thread properly off track.

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[ShadowsPapa]

I don't see anything wrong with dragging diesels into it to keep this thread properly off track.

Glad I wasn't sipping my diet coke when I read that.

 

[legacy_etu]

Even though the build and price isn't up on Jeep's site , there are 26 GC's starting to show up on Autotrader. Granted none with actual pictures, but they appear to be in transit. Expect we'll see reviews of the engine soon enough.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...adius=0&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=2026

 

[smlobx]

Even though the build and price isn't up on Jeep's site , there are 26 GC's starting to show up on Autotrader. Granted none with actual pictures, but they appear to be in transit. Expect we'll see reviews of the engine soon enough.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...adius=0&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=2026

So those GC’s are listed in the mid $44K? Not a bad price and a good omen for us potentially.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

So those GC’s are listed in the mid $44K? Not a bad price and a good omen for us potentially.

Every WK2 we ever bought has an MSRP of about 35-40K and that was pretty loaded.
They are among the cheapest way to get a capable, comfy, SUV with all of the bells and whistles
The level we bought - you never needed to buy options because they already had everything.
That 44K is probably on the higher side of any Grand Cherokee we bought. They've always been low priced vs. what you get.
Last time we bought a Grand Cherokee (2021), loaded, it was 10K under the cheapest Wrangler with maybe a few options - and the GC had power everything, auto dim high beams, ACC and much more.

 

[legacy_etu]

So those GC’s are listed in the mid $44K? Not a bad price and a good omen for us potentially.

Yeah, the GC is a pretty good value IMO as long as you don't get the Summit or Overland trims. The interiors are super nice too in comparison to the competition (Explorer, Pilot, Highlander).

I test drove all these recently and the Explorer IMO is closest to the Jeep as for what I'm looking for. Drove the Passport too. Came back and tossed the key on the salesmen's desk. He asked how I liked it? I laughed and said it was noisy and the transmission shifts alllll the time. No thanks. He was shocked.

 

[smlobx]

Every WK2 we ever bought has an MSRP of about 35-40K and that was pretty loaded.
They are among the cheapest way to get a capable, comfy, SUV with all of the bells and whistles
The level we bought - you never needed to buy options because they already had everything.
That 44K is probably on the higher side of any Grand Cherokee we bought. They've always been low priced vs. what you get.
Last time we bought a Grand Cherokee (2021), loaded, it was 10K under the cheapest Wrangler with maybe a few options - and the GC had power everything, auto dim high beams, ACC and much more.

We’ve owned four GC’s over the past 25 years and at least one was in the mid 50’s. Given the inflation in the past few years 44k for a decent GC is a good price.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We’ve owned four GC’s over the past 25 years and at least one was in the mid 50’s. Given the inflation in the past few years 44k for a decent GC is a good price.

You must have bought up a level or two from what we bought.

 

[biodiesel]

A lot of it depends on how much you're willing to spend. For example, I've paid at least $10,000 less than MSRP on my last three vehicles. It may be difficult to get $10,000+ off MSRP on a low trim level, but it's pretty easy to get $10,000+ off on higher trim levels.

2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel (Big Horn)
$49,000 MSRP - I paid $38,000

2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel (Longhorn)
$54,000 MSRP - I paid $42,000

2023 Jeep Gladiator EcoDiesel (Rubicon)
$64,000 MSRP - I paid $52,000

 

[cb4017]

Having owned a 19 Ranger with the 2.3L EB and a 23 Colorado ZR2 with the 2.7L TurboMax I am just not interested in another highly stressed turbo 4 cylinder, especially in a Gladiator.

Now a 5.7 Hemi on the other hand..

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Again, why does the term or phrase "highly stressed" keep coming up?
They are no more stressed than other engines - because they are beefed up to handle the load.
A 3.6 with twin turbos might be "highly stressed". Or a supercharged stock 350, but when an engine is designed from the ground up, it's hardly highly stressed. Go dig into engine design a bit.

 

[cb4017]

Again, why does the term or phrase "highly stressed" keep coming up?
They are no more stressed than other engines - because they are beefed up to handle the load.
A 3.6 with twin turbos might be "highly stressed". Or a supercharged stock 350, but when an engine is designed from the ground up, it's hardly highly stressed. Go dig into engine design a bit.

Whatever.

 

[biodiesel]

Having owned a 19 Ranger with the 2.3L EB and a 23 Colorado ZR2 with the 2.7L TurboMax I am just not interested in another highly stressed turbo 4 cylinder, especially in a Gladiator.

Now a 5.7 Hemi on the other hand..

I don't have any experience with these modern smaller turbocharged engines. My question is how long do they last? I've seen pictures of torn down Hurricane 3.0L engines and they looked pretty rough. The amount of carbon buildup was insane, especially if they were used for towing.

 

[biodiesel]

Again, why does the term or phrase "highly stressed" keep coming up?
They are no more stressed than other engines - because they are beefed up to handle the load.

I think 'highly stressed' comes up because these smaller displacement engines are working under higher pressures and temperatures to make the same power that a larger displacement engine can make with less stress on engine parts. And based off those who work on some of these engines, there does seem to be a growing concern for engine longevity. Obviously, some engines are better built than others, but the carbon buildup is insane!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I think 'highly stressed' comes up because these smaller displacement engines are working under higher pressures and temperatures to make the same power that a larger displacement engine can make with less stress on engine parts. And based off those who work on some of these engines, there does seem to be a growing concern for engine longevity. Obviously, some engines are better built than others, but the carbon buildup is insane!

Small displacement engines have been placed "under the stress" of high RPM and turbos for a long time. They typically have the parts made to handle it, just like some cars will wind up over 7,000 RPM and not bat an eye - they are made for it. It's not stress to that engine.

Carbon is another matter - and likely caused by some other issue - DI is a problem, for example.

Do they ALL carbon - or just the one seen?

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