Offroad baby, pucker up.

[93civej1]

Ok so I am a baby to the offroad stuff, but would like to get more into it other than just a gravel road. The few trails ive been on were newb stuff, but still included enough off camber places in trail that just made me a baby. How do you guys get used to the truck tilting and not being afraid of the tought of it tipping or rolling over? I know ive been no where close to that but even the slightest tilt makes it feel like it to me. How do i grow a pair?

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[rharr]

Join a club, go with ppl that have experiences let them go first. if they can make it compare your setup to theirs and do a mental calculation if they are that much different.

Ask the ppl with experience if you should follow them or take a bypass.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Ok so I am a baby to the offroad stuff, but would like to get more into it other than just a gravel road. The few trails ive been on were newb stuff, but still included enough off camber places in trail that just made me a baby. How do you guys get used to the truck tilting and not being afraid of the tought of it tipping or rolling over? I know ive been no where close to that but even the slightest tilt makes it feel like it to me. How do i grow a pair?

Use the tilt and roll gauges. As you do more things, you’ll know what angles are safe. When I started, 15 degrees felt terrible. That’s normal when you’re starting. When of camber, Go slowly. Less speed means less bouncing and articulation, keeping the angles as tame as they can be for an obstacle. Trust your spotter and as others have and will say, go with someone that’s a little more experienced as you’re getting used to it. Don’t be afraid to back off if you don’t feel comfortable. You can always come back another time. Pride is your enemy.

Edit: JT’s handle angles really well. A good rule of thumb to start with is that. 20 degrees is not going to tip you if you’re moving slowly. When you get closer to 30 in a roll, it gets sketchy. I’d keep it under 25 until you’re more comfortable with the rig and how it acts.

 

[Slipshodman]

Experience is your friend & pride is your enemy
Great advice above
Enjoy the trails & only do what your comfortable with , your comfort level will grow with time

 

[Janster]

You don’t need not stinkin’ tilt gauge……
Back 20+ years ago, they didn’t exist unless you bought one.

If you’re going offroad ‘properly’…..(never go alone, do it legally, and/or with permission) - you learn a lot by being behind other rigs. Watching the lines they take and watching how the vehicles act. It all looks pretty harmless.

Your ‘ass meter’ will tell you……. and it’ll LIE to you everytime.
It’s a right of passage…… Everytime you go offroad and get into those situations, it won’t feel nearly as bad the next time. You’ll be pushing that comfort zone further and further everytime. You’ll get to the point when you’ll *feel* a weight shift. When you start feeling the weight shift….(hard to explain), .that’s when you gotta be concerned and react accordingly.

 

[Gvsukids]

Ok so I am a baby to the offroad stuff, but would like to get more into it other than just a gravel road. The few trails ive been on were newb stuff, but still included enough off camber places in trail that just made me a baby. How do you guys get used to the truck tilting and not being afraid of the tought of it tipping or rolling over? I know ive been no where close to that but even the slightest tilt makes it feel like it to me. How do i grow a pair?

Practice. Also, be mindful of how much your passenger can handle.

 

[Janster]

And don’t forget…… The ‘tilting point’ will be different for every vehicle depending on all sorts of factors (including lift, tire size, suspension, weight, etc). Your rig could tip over 10 degrees less (or more) than someone else’s rig simply because of those factors.

First thing…. You’re learning your rig (as you drive) and you’ll know when you feel comfortable or not. Don’t be pressured into doing something you don’t feel comfortable with. Back off…..and take a different line.

As you learn, that comfort zone will shift as you get more experience……
Know the situation you’re in….. learn about ‘what to do’ when things get sketchy - (for example: turning the wheels towards the side you’d tilt over on - hard to explain - or towards the dirt and NOT towards the sky)

 

[Stan H]

Practice. Also, be mindful of how much your passenger can handle.

Only thing, I was wondering is at what speed are you taking these obstacles?
I can just hear the Jeep dropping down rather hard . ??

 

[93civej1]

Use the tilt and roll gauges. As you do more things, you’ll know what angles are safe. When I started, 15 degrees felt terrible. That’s normal when you’re starting. When of camber, Go slowly. Less speed means less bouncing and articulation, keeping the angles as tame as they can be for an obstacle. Trust your spotter and as others have and will say, go with someone that’s a little more experienced as you’re getting used to it. Don’t be afraid to back off if you don’t feel comfortable. You can always come back another time. Pride is your enemy.

Edit: JT’s handle angles really well. A good rule of thumb to start with is that. 20 degrees is not going to tip you if you’re moving slowly. When you get closer to 30 I’m a roll, it gets sketchy. I’d keep it under 25 until you’re more comfortable with the rig and how it acts.

Thats good to know that 20 or less theres no worry. It sure doesnt seem that way in my mind. haha.

 

[Stan H]

I probably at time have carried mine around in a 5 gallon bucket . Which sometimes isn't good. Last year due to over confidence I went up a 20°+ hill that had 9 very deep water breaks in it and it also had large #3 gravel on it . It was steep enough ( and I didn't realize it ) that my front end was trying to come loose on me . Luckily I was able to counter steer my self out .
I tell that story for one reason start low and work your way up and don't let over confidence be your undoing. Great advice about joining a club. . Or even trail with other experienced Jeepers that mayor may not be in a club. I hate Facebook but I am in 2 different clubs on it . 304 Jeepers and OVJC

 

[93civej1]

I probably at time have carried mine around in a 5 gallon bucket . Which sometimes isn't good. Last year due to over confidence I went up a 20°+ hill that had 9 very deep water breaks in it and it also had large #3 gravel on it . It was steep enough ( and I didn't realize it ) that my front end was trying to come loose on me . Luckily I was able to counter steer my self out .
I tell that story for one reason start low and work your way up and don't let over confidence be your undoing. Great advice about joining a club. . Or even trail with other experienced Jeepers that mayor may not be in a club. I hate Facebook but I am in 2 different clubs on it . 304 Jeepers and OVJC

Yeah I am in a few local facebook groups, but honestly the ones around here that have rides seem a bit silly unless I havent found the right one.

Like this weekend was a huge ride with 300+ jeeps on it for "go topless day". It was an easy just pavement / gravel road ride, but it was a cluster and i lost everyone close to the start and ended up on my own on a totally different route. It was ok though as there was nothing dangerous to get into for this ride. My children and I were able to make the most of it alone and making memories.

The groups consist of those who see how gawdy they can make their vehicle look, see how many ducks they can cram in it, and if your really all jeep....you would be a heavy set woman that looks like a male and prefers to play the male of their relationship. (no hate if thats your thing...just not mine). Personally i find a TON (not all) of the whole jeep community a bit weird and people who have 0 mechanical knowledge. Luckily thats why i come here to get most of my info.

Maybe ill find those few randoms I connect with. It aint most groups around here though. haha.

 

[WILDHOBO]

You don’t need not stinkin’ tilt gauge……
Back 20+ years ago, they didn’t exist unless you bought one.

If you’re going offroad ‘properly’…..(never go alone, do it legally, and/or with permission) - you learn a lot by being behind other rigs. Watching the lines they take and watching how the vehicles act. It all looks pretty harmless.

Your ‘ass meter’ will tell you……. and it’ll LIE to you everytime.
It’s a right of passage…… Everytime you go offroad and get into those situations, it won’t feel nearly as bad the next time. You’ll be pushing that comfort zone further and further everytime. You’ll get to the point when you’ll *feel* a weight shift. When you start feeling the weight shift….(hard to explain), .that’s when you gotta be concerned and react accordingly.

So because a hammer exists today, but didn’t in the past, they should use a rock instead? Use the tools you have. No need to walk uphill both ways in the snow barefoot.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Only thing, I was wondering is at what speed are you taking these obstacles?
I can just hear the Jeep dropping down rather hard . ??

Slow is your friend. throttle is the enemy. Just like docking a boat. If you accidentally nudge the dock very slowly, nothing will break. Fast? Bad. When you’re learning at least.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Yeah I am in a few local facebook groups, but honestly the ones around here that have rides seem a bit silly unless I havent found the right one.

Like this weekend was a huge ride with 300+ jeeps on it for "go topless day". It was an easy just pavement / gravel road ride, but it was a cluster and i lost everyone close to the start and ended up on my own on a totally different route. It was ok though as there was nothing dangerous to get into for this ride. My children and I were able to make the most of it alone and making memories.

The groups consist of those who see how gawdy they can make their vehicle look, see how many ducks they can cram in it, and if your really all jeep....you would be a heavy set woman that looks like a male and prefers to play the male of their relationship. (no hate if thats your thing...just not mine). Personally i find a TON (not all) of the whole jeep community a bit weird and people who have 0 mechanical knowledge. Luckily thats why i come here to get most of my info.

Maybe ill find those few randoms I connect with. It aint most groups around here though. haha.

Sounds like you found the side by side crowd, that thinks jeeps are sxs’s you can take to the store. Sorry about that. Yeah. You need one or two people to join. Big groups are terrible imo.

 

[93civej1]

Practice. Also, be mindful of how much your passenger can handle.

These didnt look too bad. In my mind I am speaking more of where you have the offcamber and on the other side you have a drop off down the side of a mountain. I dont think ill feel as tingly if its relatively flat on both sides where if you do tip over your not rolling down a mountain.

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