FLUndertaker
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New JT. Curious what the best order for tire, suspension, flare mods is? If the goal is 37s and I don’t have $10k to do it all at once.
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Proper order of mods?
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ACAD_Cowboy
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Lift then tires. Flares should be fine as is. Regear if you feel you need it.
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makes sense. Just sort of dreading the look with 3” of lift with stock wheels and tires. Lol. Sort of like the muscle head who never does leg day. you can get away with it while wearing sweatpants but once the shorts go on everyone knows your secret.
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There's no order except to buy what you either WANT first or...what I do, is decide on what mod I can use the MOST NOW.
Only thing I'll say beyond that don't buy cheap parts. A lot of Jeepers do.
Are you going to wheel it? Since I have a feeling you haven't been around Jeeps before then I'd say going wheel it how you like and then decide.
Only thing I'll say beyond that don't buy cheap parts. A lot of Jeepers do.
Are you going to wheel it? Since I have a feeling you haven't been around Jeeps before then I'd say going wheel it how you like and then decide.
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Lift, tires, & wheels shouldn't cost you anywhere NEAR $10,000... Shouldn't cost even HALF that...
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ACAD_Cowboy
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Well Id recommend the lift first so you dont drag the tires on the fenders. And 3" of lift wont exactly translate to 3" of static clearence increase. Trust me you will look much worse with the tires all cut to shit on the chassis and the fender inners and bit all dangly.
But like @BLK HOLE says, roll it around a little and then decide if 37's are where you need to be anyway. You may be suprised.
But like @BLK HOLE says, roll it around a little and then decide if 37's are where you need to be anyway. You may be suprised.
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it may be slight exaggeration but it’ll certainly be over $5000. My plans are for a Clayton Off-road Overland Plus kit plus shocks ~$3000 plus $800 for install and alignment. Black Rhino wheels and Nitto Mud grapplers ~$3000. Metalcloak fenders front and rear ~$1500. That’s conservatively $7500.
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everyone saying lift before flares, but I feel like they are interchangeable here. I had my lift paid for on order when I did flares. 37's should be no problem with the Flares on our JT's.
These are only 35's (I have new wheels & waiting on Patagonia 37's) but here is a No real lift with flares & then with the lift (2.5" Clayton Overland). Flares are the relatively speaking cheap bushwackers.
These are only 35's (I have new wheels & waiting on Patagonia 37's) but here is a No real lift with flares & then with the lift (2.5" Clayton Overland). Flares are the relatively speaking cheap bushwackers.
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Not to shit on your parade but those flares aren't really functional...in fact they can cause way moire harm than good. Those plastic fenders are just rigid enough not give, yet transfer the hit to fender panel (denting the body) but not rigid enough to take a hit. I wouldn't recommend anyone get those if you're going to offroad it. The stock flares are better in this respect because they can just rip away. And stock works with 37s.everyone saying lift before flares, but I feel like they are interchangeable here. I had my lift paid for on order when I did flares. 37's should be no problem with the Flares on our JT's.
These are only 35's (I have new wheels & waiting on Patagonia 37's) but here is a No real lift with flares & then with the lift (2.5" Clayton Overland). Flares are the relatively speaking cheap bushwackers.
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You must not of used these fenders because your wrong. They flex more then the factory fenders & if I got them hung up on something they will rip off without much issue. Your making them out to be way stronger then they are. They are completely functional in keeping most of the rocks and tire slosh off the body. Also as experienced a few weeks ago the side to side clearance lets me get through places without rubbing anything important where stock Rubicon Fenders would hit.
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I have extensive experience. And the body damage that followed...which is why no longer have them. Bushwacker and Poison Spyder.
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Dont get me wrong bud... I am not trying to say Bushwacker is better then MetalCloak, Poison Spyder, JCR or whatever other quality aftermarket steel fenders because they arent. But Your going to have to show me pics & evidence of the bushwacker fenders causing damage where the stock or aftermarket wouldn't. The small amount of actual plastic holding these on is insanely low. There is about 40 nut-certs holding the inner supports on, but the lack of thickness in the inner supports & the fenders themselves with the oh so few screws attaching them actually astounds me.
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OK, Im confused now. The pics appear to show the Bushwacker flares that you mention arent solid. Was this just to support your statement that they arent substantial and you had first hand knowledge? Also your last partial statement mentions Bushwacker and Poison Spyder, are you also saying the PS Crusher flares wont hold up? Understand I am not arguing, only trying to follow the discussion here as to whats quality and whats lesser. For the record, I am only considering metal fares and have pretty much narrowed it down to the PS, Fabtech, and Metalcloak. Unless someone really has something powerful to say and evidence to back it up, I am likely going to pop on the MC. They appear the most well designed, follow the body lines well and install very easily while providing amongst the best protection.I have extensive experience. And the body damage that followed...which is why no longer have them. Bushwacker and Poison Spyder.
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I think he was just pointing out that he changed from the bushwacker to the PS flares.
For the JT the ones I will eventually get are the JCR. Paint them to match (look at the JL pictures on their page since they have them painted instead of black on red) & they look like a more aggressive OEM in my opinion. Nemesis are also right up there with them for appearance. The MC ones I think may be the strongest based on the appearance of construction, but they look clearly aftermarket to me instead of looking like they belong.
I went with the bushwackers for a very simple reason. Cost. I have many many other upgrades I want to do & the cost of quality aftermarket fenders & inner fenders even just powdercoated black are in upwards of 2k. The bushwackers can be had for less then 500 on amazon & when I bought these I had also ended up with a couple hundred in amazon gift cards so I didnt have much out of pocket & I figure they should last me till I get the rest of my major upgrades done & then I will replace them & probably be able to sell them for close to what I paid.
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