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*since the Gladiator will have a max towing capacity of 6,500 lbs and has a 7 & 4 electric brake plugs.
I think Jeep has standardized on this for anything with towing package. Our KL Cherokee Trailhawk has this and can only tow 4000(ish) pounds (I can't remember if its 4500 but I know it's at least 4k).

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I wasn't really clear when I posted my wish of 6500 pounds towing. I wasn't really talking about the specification as much as REALLY handling it. Our 3.6L'd JKU struggles to get itself up large grades out west and I often need 5th and sometimes 4th with our 2k pound overland trailer in tow on highway mountain grades. This said, it's the stopping that is the bigger concern.

Our KL is rated at towing twice what our overland trailer weighs fully loaded but economy drops to 9-12 MPG when doing so. It has 9 speeds in the transmission and can hardly get out of 5th often resorting to long pulls in 4th and to keep it at 65 MPH on the highway.

I'm seeing lots of awesome with the JL and JT, but I'm not seeing the driveline hardware to backup some of the specs... I'd love to be wrong on this though.
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I think Jeep has standardized on this for anything with towing package. Our KL Cherokee Trailhawk has this and can only tow 4000(ish) pounds (I can't remember if its 4500 but I know it's at least 4k).

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I wasn't really clear when I posted my wish of 6500 pounds towing. I wasn't really talking about the specification as much as REALLY handling it. Our 3.6L'd JKU struggles to get itself up large grades out west and I often need 5th and sometimes 4th with our 2k pound overland trailer in tow on highway mountain grades. This said, it's the stopping that is the bigger concern.

Our KL is rated at towing twice what our overland trailer weighs fully loaded but economy drops to 9-12 MPG when doing so. It has 9 speeds in the transmission and can hardly get out of 5th often resorting to long pulls in 4th and to keep it at 65 MPH on the highway.

I'm seeing lots of awesome with the JL and JT, but I'm not seeing the driveline hardware to backup some of the specs... I'd love to be wrong on this though.
The rear suspension on the JT is going to be the same design as the on the Ram 1500 just on a smaller frame. So that will boost the the tow rating but will also make it less capable off road. With the pickup there are going to be trade offs. However with that said it shouldn't be any worst then a Tacoma (most likely better as I expect it to be a mini Power Wagon).
 

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I prefer not to deal with a full-size truck in the urban area I live in (Dallas). Parking is tight and traffic stinks. I want a truck with a min 6k tow rating, deep enough bed to carry hunting and fishing gear under a tonneau with a locking tailgate (too many thieves), transport a kennel inside the cab for my bird dog (flip up/lay flat rear seats) to keep him out of the bad weather when driving/deter dog thieves while inside store/restaurant, bold enough looks to fit my style, have comfortable front seats for those 3-6 hour drives to my hunting/sighing spots, and comfortable/roomy enough to put two adults in the back. As far as mid-size trucks go, the Ridgeline is the closest to fit my needs at this point. However, the RL lacks any sort of off road clearance, has sleek/urban looks, the back seat leg room is too tight for adults (hip/shoulder room is good), and the bed is too shallow to store tall gear under a tonneau cover.

With those things in mind I checked out he JL at the DFW Auto Show with the hope the interiors/styling will be very similar to the Gladiator. The JL front seats are very comfortable, head/shoulder/hip room is good, and the leg room is right at the minimum for a 6' person IMO. The rear seats are easy to access, have an improved rake over the JK, and do not have a backwards recline lever. The rear seats are comparable to the Ridgeline rear seats with at least one extra inch of leg room. However, because the front leg room is so short, I had to have the seat all the way back which severely cut into the rear passenger leg room. When I hopped in the back seat with the front seat in a normal driving position for me my knees touched the front seat. Stinks, the leg room for the rear seats are still tight for adults taking longer trips IMO. The middle rear seat is narrow and uncomfortable. The Ridgeline middle seat is better due to extra hip/shoulder room. With that said, the Gladiator will be the roomiest of the mid-sized trucks but still considerably less room in the rear than a full size truck or large crossover (Pilot/4Runner/Highlander/Ascent/Atlas/Traverse/Enclave). Probably comparable to a small crossover (CRV/Edge/Rogue/Rav4). I'd say for those that really need the back seat to move adults a full-size truck or large crossover is going to be the way to go. If not, you're probably really going to be happy with the Gladiator.

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