Shock suggestions

[dayusmc]

And I was just throwing out there about factoring in rebuilds as a consideration. But OP may only keep his trucks for 40k miles and then trade them in, not sure.
For someone who might keep their stuff long it is just worth noting. Also, if the person can't rebuild the shocks on their own, they should call each company and see how much a rebuild is. One company might be $100 per shock and another $350 a shock.
It all comes down to how much someone wants/can afford to spend.
I think Fox and SDi are both solid choices of you are worried about being able to rebuild them or send them to whoever you want to rebuild. Falcon might be good shocks too, but you have to semd them to Falcon to be rebuilt. The stock shocks are great, but if they have 35k - 45k on them probably need to be rebuilt. I actually took my OEM Mojave and put them on my wife's JLU.
I am not suggesting one shock over the other, just pointing out thiings to consider when making a decision...
Another note on SDi, they are bigger than most people think. They make oem shock parts for some of the big name companies in recreational vehicles, and they make them in house in CA, when I was there last I was in back with Dan as he was reprograming the cnc for one of those parts. SDi is solid, I wish they made normal non-electrical shocks, I would have bought them!

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[Stingray77]

I have a Mojave also. I switched out my stock Fox shocks with longer Fox 2.5 Elite reservoir shocks. If you buy the ones for 3.5" lift they will be long enough if you go higher.
Also how many miles are on your stick shocks? At 40k they will all need to be rebuilt and that is something you have to consider when buying shicks. Falcon will not sell the rebuild parts to you so they have to go back to Falcon to be rebuilt. Fox is good they will sell you all the parts and spend the time on the phone with you to make sure you get everything you want (Ethan from Fox truck off-road). Codi at SDi is always great, he is not a wrench turner, but he will definitely help you and he will talk to Dan (the owner and designer of their parts) to get all the information you want.
It kind of comes down to how much $$$ you want to spend. You can find brand new Fox 2.5 elite shocks, all 4 for around $2300. You could have your oem Fox shocks rebuilt for a lot less (CrazyCooter on her does them and a few other places), but I wouldn't go any higher of a lift with the OEM shocks and shock extensions. Not sure how much SDi shocks cost, but they are more complicated to install as you have to add wiring in.

I’m at 28k miles right now. So I’d hope they don’t already need a rebuild, but I did buy it used with 18k completely stock. so I don’t know what kinda abuse the previous owner did. I like the thought of the e-clicks because of them basically tuning them selfs constantly. If I were to buy fox 2.5 I’d buy them through accutune for the best results.

 

[dayusmc]

One suggestion if you are getting custom valved shocks, pick the springs you will be going with before ordering the shocks. The turner will need to know the spring rates so he can value the rebound correctly. It will make the most difference on the road or if you do high speed desert driving with whoops and stuff like that. Knowing the spring rate is VERY important to valve shocks..

 

[WILDHOBO]

One suggestion if you are getting custom valved shocks, pick the springs you will be going with before ordering the shocks. The turner will need to know the spring rates so he can value the rebound correctly. It will make the most difference on the road or if you do high speed desert driving with whoops and stuff like that. Knowing the spring rate is VERY important to valve shocks..

Another SDI advantage. They change valving dynamically and with manual permanent settings. So you can tune them to your truck.

 

[dayusmc]

Not sure what you mean with manual permanent settings, but I am talking about valving, nit the adjusters. Valving is completely different them external adjustments and external adjustments can never make up for valving....

 

[WILDHOBO]

Not sure what you mean with manual permanent settings, but I am talking about valving, nit the adjusters. Valving is completely different them external adjustments and external adjustments can never make up for valving....

The valving IS actually adjusted with the system. These are not simple stiffness/softness setting adjustments.

 

[dayusmc]

Valving cannot be adjusted externally on any shock. Shims cannot be removed or added externally. So unless these shocks have NO shims, that is impossible. What those shocks have are electrical compression and possibly rebound adjustments, completely different thing.
I am not going to get into how shocks work or get valves or 2-way, 3-way adjusters or the preload spring on the adjusters, there is a lot in a shock. But they do not change valving electronically...
In the end, people have to educate themselves on what they are getting for their money and how much they want to spend.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

I do enjoy the shocks, I mean you can’t go wrong with fox most of the time. Ive really been wanting to get rid of the extension brackets by getting longer shocks. But I’m running 37’s with JKS 3-3.5 J-Kontrol lift with their adjustable sway bar links and their shock extension brackets. I’m looking into swapping to rock jock sway bars front and back in the future. I’m hoping to get a better ride and off-roading capability, most roads I ride on here in Florida are rough and a lot of sandy dirt roads. With the occasional obstacle course and rough hunting road. so I’d like to be able to cruise since it’s my daily driver and wheel off road without sacrificing one or the other. I know that’s a lot harder than it seems though.

Your on road manners are not going to improve with an antirock sway bar- check out ORO SwayLoc if you are looking for improved on road, and the same if not better off road handling to antirock.

Are you on factory control arms?. Spoke my peace on shocks above. Based on what you are describing sand being sandy beaches and rough roads falcons would likely make you happy at 1/2-1/3 of the cost to hydro bumps and bypass 8100’s.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

Valving cannot be adjusted externally on any shock. Shims cannot be removed or added externally. So unless these shocks have NO shims, that is impossible. What those shocks have are electrical compression and possibly rebound adjustments, completely different thing.
I am not going to get into how shocks work or get valves or 2-way, 3-way adjusters or the preload spring on the adjusters, there is a lot in a shock. But they do not change valving electronically...
In the end, people have to educate themselves on what they are getting for their money and how much they want to spend.

So, I understand your point to valving adjustments… however 8100’s as mentioned above are offered with bypass valves that can be adjusted externally. Same with kings or any other bypass allowing for nitrogen pressure adjustments at different levels of travel within the shock.

I am also willing to bet the external adjustments being referred to above are clickers which change the orfice size found between the reservoir and shock.

 

[dayusmc]

My point with valving is that it needs to be close before you can fine tune with adjusters. Some adjusters are orifice based, some are check valve with spring based, etc .. I have not seen any shock that had external nitrogen pressure adjustments, not even sure how that could be done.

 

[WILDHOBO]

So, I understand your point to valving adjustments… however 8100’s as mentioned above are offered with bypass valves that can be adjusted externally. Same with kings or any other bypass allowing for nitrogen pressure adjustments at different levels of travel within the shock.

I am also willing to bet the external adjustments being referred to above are clickers which change the orfice size found between the reservoir and shock.

Correct. All adjustments done on external bypasses. These are the only shock on the market that do this.

 

[WILDHOBO]

My point with valving is that it needs to be close before you can fine tune with adjusters. Some adjusters are orifice based, some are check valve with spring based, etc .. I have not seen any shock that had external nitrogen pressure adjustments, not even sure how that could be done.

Look into them. They’re in a class by themselves.

 

[dayusmc]

Look into them. They’re in a class by themselves.

I did already

 

[WILDHOBO]

I did already

Non believer. I get it. If you ever get the chance to checkout a Jeep with them installed, mine included, I think you’d be impressed.

 

[dayusmc]

I never said they were not good. I said SDi and Fox are good stuff.
I said if someone is getting custom valved shocks to tell the tuner what springs they have because rebound valving is dependent on spring rate.
I specifically didn't recommend one over the other.

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