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True, GM is putting on a bandaid to try to avoid the issue they’ve fixed for 2025 models. Is it better that Jeep has offered neither a bandaid or a fix for an obvious intake lash/lifter/cam issue that has plagued the Pentastar for years?? At this point a bandaid probably sounds good to the many people that are affected by this, IMO.
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True, GM is putting on a bandaid to try to avoid the issue they’ve fixed for 2025 models. Is it better that Jeep has offered neither a bandaid or a fix for an obvious intake lash/lifter/cam issue that has plagued the Pentastar for years?? At this point a bandaid probably sounds good to the many people that are affected by this, IMO.
The PRE- PUG pentastar engine problems were different root causes. You can't possibly lump a 2014 3.6 with a 2020 version, but hey, people who don't understand the differences will keep trying.
The jk 3.6 was a different valve train design than ours or the jl version. Different problems!
Again, what are they to offer up?
 

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I didn't realize that the pentastar was different across lines and years I just thought it's been basically the same all these years. I thought it was a hemi tick I never heard of the pentastar tick but if there is an issue they could offer up a extended time/mileage warranty?
 

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The PRE- PUG pentastar engine problems were different root causes. You can't possibly lump a 2014 3.6 with a 2020 version, but hey, people who don't understand the differences will keep trying.
The jk 3.6 was a different valve train design than ours or the jl version. Different problems!
Again, what are they to offer up?
Oh understand “upgrades” were made and different rocker arms were used to address the needle bearing issue on the previous version. Do you feel that “fix” was successful given the problem (trashed cams) is still the same? It seems the fix did not resolve the root cause.
 

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Jeep should be working with owners to do something. Maybe extend warranties or something
 

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You’re right, it can happen with any manufacturer. Toyota went through a similar thing last year when they had issues with their Tundra engines. Of course the difference between them and Jeep is Toyota immediately addressed the issue, instilling confidence in their customers that they will make it right. They didn’t let the issue linger, for years literally, and that issue is now yesterday’s news for Toyota.

Friend of mine has a tundra and Toyota fixed it in 2 weeks.
 

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My guess is that it’s both a demand issue and a supply issue.

honestly, I would be happy as a clam, with more basic creature features ( don’t need a 40” screen on the dash ) while retaining the off road awesomeness.

in a moment of ironic thinking, can you imagine if we have another round of supply issues with chips, and screens, preventing the sale of a perfectly good vehicle, just b/c a screen couldn’t show the display feed from a reverse camera? I like them and all, even though a great portion of drivers on the road never had that in the previous half of their life.
This first supply issue was legitimate - a pandemic and the aftermath.
 

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What would the notice be about? Every manufacturer is going thru the same thing.

A notice would only scare consumers away. Perfect example…..You’re already worried.

It is what it is…and it sucks….but hold on, be patient….
Hard to be patient when you vehicle is sitting at the dealer for weeks and weeks, even months.
 

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The PRE- PUG pentastar engine problems were different root causes. You can't possibly lump a 2014 3.6 with a 2020 version, but hey, people who don't understand the differences will keep trying.
The jk 3.6 was a different valve train design than ours or the jl version. Different problems!
Again, what are they to offer up?
That's your Javelin in the image? Looks pretty cool, man.
 

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That's your Javelin in the image? Looks pretty cool, man.
If referring to signature pic - the car on the trailer behind the JT is my SX4 (82 Eagle hatchback)
 

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Hard to be patient when you vehicle is sitting at the dealer for weeks and weeks, even months.
That’s a different story…. (If that were me) I’d be in the dealerships face constantly. Did they provide you with a free rental or courtesy vehicle?
Have they told you what they’re waiting on (Or ask them for part#)? You could (if you’re motivated enough) call around to dealerships yourself looking for the parts (and/or at least, see if your dealership is feeding you a line of shit or not). Dealerships aren’t always motivated enough to get things done in a timely fashion.


When I said ‘Be Patient’ - I meant that for buying / pricing & availability, etc.
 

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If referring to signature pic - the car on the trailer behind the JT is my SX4 (82 Eagle hatchback)
Looks fun to drive, but then I'm 75.
 

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That’s a different story…. (If that were me) I’d be in the dealerships face constantly. Did they provide you with a free rental or courtesy vehicle?
Have they told you what they’re waiting on (Or ask them for part#)? You could (if you’re motivated enough) call around to dealerships yourself looking for the parts (and/or at least, see if your dealership is feeding you a line of shit or not). Dealerships aren’t always motivated enough to get things done in a timely fashion.


When I said ‘Be Patient’ - I meant that for buying / pricing & availability, etc.
Ok, you're right, patience in that regard can save you money. I never buy a new version of a vehicle (i.e. 2020 JTR) until it's been out for a few years. That definitely worked for my 2024 JTR.
 

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Jeep should be working with owners to do something. Maybe extend warranties or something
Stellantis has the opposite approach: cut corners on quality/r&d and vehemently deny warranty coverage citing neglect/abuse/modification, knowing that most customers won’t pursue litigation. This is the root cause of the financial troubles they’re in; their financial forecast won’t turn around until they start providing a better product or, at the very minimum, a customer-first approach to service.
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