Used 21 vs New 23

[loudog3114]

And to think I commuted in Dallas traffic with a stick shift.

I did the same in the stick shift era to Manhattan. 30 years ago you could live through it. But traffic is so incredibly bad these days anything I can throw money at to make my life easier is worth it.

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[Sandevino]

I did the same in the stick shift era to Manhattan. 30 years ago you could live through it. But traffic is so incredibly bad these days anything I can throw money at to make my life easier is worth it.

You couldn't pay me enough to commute again. I work from home now and cringe when I have to drive to the store....lol.

 

[Mister Lamb]

Hold onto anything that doesn't have automatic braking. The technology is terrible and anyone I've spoken to with it has either gotten into an accident because of it or gotten awfully close. Imagine having to deal with ESS and automatic braking?

 

[Jefe1018]

I live south of Boston and commute in. It's about 10 miles at a minimum daily in stop and go traffic for a minimum of 45 minutes. Once you go ACC around here you never go back. I've had 6-7 cars with it at this point. It also makes long hauls quite a bit less work. Just left lane and relax.

But if it is really stop and go traffic, what would ACC do for you?

 

[Mr._Bill]

But if it is really stop and go traffic, what would ACC do for you?

ACC controls the throttle and brakes and maintains a set distance between the truck and the vehicle it is following. It's not a lot of help if the traffic is more stop than go. For me, it is usually just slow moving with occasional stops. If ACC cancels from being stopped too long, I just have to hit the resume button when it starts moving again.

 

[CrazyCooter]

I HATE that my truck applies the brakes to control the speed while traveling in mountain country. It will easily fry the brakes especially while towing if you let it. Not sure if that's a specific function of ACC or if they all do that?

 

[Mr._Bill]

I HATE that my truck applies the brakes to control the speed while traveling in mountain country. It will easily fry the brakes especially while towing if you let it. Not sure if that's a specific function of ACC or if they all do that?

That's a function of ACC, I don't know if regular cruise control does it. The pads may wear faster, but I don't see it frying the brakes. I don't tow much, but I always use ACC. I've done 43k miles, a lot through mountains, and have no brake issues. The lights on the brake controller show me when the computer is applying the brakes.

 

[CrazyCooter]

That's a function of ACC, I don't know if regular cruise control does it. The pads may wear faster, but I don't see it frying the brakes. I don't tow much, but I always use ACC. I've done 43k miles, a lot through mountains, and have no brake issues. The lights on the brake controller show me when the computer is applying the brakes.

My first trip out on the road upon delivery netted rotors that were most certainly hot with a blue color as I had not yet figured out the ACC will drag the brakes unknowingly down a slight hill. I began noting the brake lights reflecting off of my small tent trailer......I now cannot use the cruise unless the terrain is flat.

Looked through AlfaOBD looking for a way to just shut it off.

 

[Jefe1018]

ACC controls the throttle and brakes and maintains a set distance between the truck and the vehicle it is following. It's not a lot of help if the traffic is more stop than go. For me, it is usually just slow moving with occasional stops. If ACC cancels from being stopped too long, I just have to hit the resume button when it starts moving again.

Thanks, I’m just not really familiar with the function.

 

[Mr._Bill]

My first trip out on the road upon delivery netted rotors that were most certainly hot with a blue color as I had not yet figured out the ACC will drag the brakes unknowingly down a slight hill. I began noting the brake lights reflecting off of my small tent trailer......I now cannot use the cruise unless the terrain is flat.

Looked through AlfaOBD looking for a way to just shut it off.

Have you had the brakes checked for proper function? They should not be overheating, unless constantly applied downhill at maximum weight.

Brake and throttle control is part of the programming for ACC along with use of the Camera and Radar. It is not something you can turn off.

On my Overland, ACC does not drag the brakes. It applies them long enough to bring the speed down and then releases. The steeper the hill, the more they get used, but I've never had them overheat. The ACC behavior is similar to what I would do if manually controlling the speed.

 

[RJinPV]

I live south of Boston and commute in. It's about 10 miles at a minimum daily in stop and go traffic for a minimum of 45 minutes. Once you go ACC around here you never go back. I've had 6-7 cars with it at this point. It also makes long hauls quite a bit less work. Just left lane and relax.

Have you used the ACC on a Gladiator? I have a 2023 3.6L JTR with ACC and the ACC drives me crazy in Los Angeles stop and go traffic. I find it's either accelerating too fast or breaking too hard to keep up with the car in front of me. It seems worse in this respect than my wife's 2017 Grand Cherokee. Maybe your experience is with a different vehicle with different control loop settings that make it relaxing?

 

[Mr._Bill]

Have you used the ACC on a Gladiator? I have a 2023 3.6L JTR with ACC and the ACC drives me crazy in Los Angeles stop and go traffic. I find it's either accelerating too fast or breaking too hard to keep up with the car in front of me. It seems worse in this respect than my wife's 2017 Grand Cherokee. Maybe your experience is with a different vehicle with different control loop settings that make it relaxing?

Have you tried adjusting the following distance to see if it helps any? I find the Gladiator ACC to be a bit aggressive. I keep it at the maximum distance to try and leave a bit of room between me and everyone else. It works well, for me, in heavy traffic.

 

[staying_tuned]

Not sure if you’ve considered ordering but you can get roughly 13% off MSRP (7% off invoice) if you’re willing to wait for a build. Most are being delivered within 8 weeks. Hopefully others can chime in on this but from my understanding, the EcoD will not like 45 mins of stop and go.

 

[loudog3114]

Have you used the ACC on a Gladiator? I have a 2023 3.6L JTR with ACC and the ACC drives me crazy in Los Angeles stop and go traffic. I find it's either accelerating too fast or breaking too hard to keep up with the car in front of me. It seems worse in this respect than my wife's 2017 Grand Cherokee. Maybe your experience is with a different vehicle with different control loop settings that make it relaxing?

Yes I’m slightly ashamed to admit I’ve had both a 3.6 JT and a diesel JL already with acc. It’s way too aggressive on the accelerations but the diesel lag calms it down a bit. What I found is if you put it in manual mode and force it to a gear it calms it down even more. On the flip side I have a rivian right now that is so lax about accelerating and leaving a gap that I get constantly cut off.

 

[Jackspt]

I am looking for a very specific build (diesel, rubicon, ACC) and there are basically none new in the nation and only a few used. I don't necessarily need the cost savings of going used but if there are no changes I might as well spend less on the used one. The build is about 69k discounted new vs 57k for the used one. So the question is, any substantial changes in those years? I know the steering box was changed at some point to be tighter with less float.

I just had the same decision and got a 21 JTRD with 20k miles for 51k with a bunch of add ons included.

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