warranty

[Gvsukids]

The truck had 3,900 miles and was sold as new with full car warranty. I checked with Mopar and because the truck was used from Nov 2024 ‘til I bought it in late May, I lost 6 Months of warranty! Shouldn’t it have started in May?

Hmmm. Hopefully not the last Jeep you'll own. What's the dealership say?

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[ShadowsPapa]

Like said - there are ways to see if you are the FIRST title holder. If it had a title previously, then the warranty started with that first title.
Iowa has removed the requirement for showing prior owners on the title, but it's still on record, and dealers can show it as well as carfax or any of the other (there are two or three other companies other than carfax that do a good if not better job)

Sometimes SALES people don't know crap about this stuff so you may have to have them look it up and prove you hold the first title.

 

[Mr Miami]

Not to beat a dead horse, or horsepower, or whatever, but do dealers actually have the title in their name? If that is the case, then wouldn't every car a dealer received have the title in their names? I think there has to be some provision that while they are taking legal possession when purchasing the vehicle from the manufacturer, they are not actually the first title holder from a State motor vehicle perspective. Maybe this varies by State?

What I'm trying to say without rambling any more, is there has to be some provision for the dealer to purchase the vehicle without being the first title holder. If that was not the case, the Carfax or other report would always show the dealer as the first owner of the vehicle and the registration in their name.

 

[Mr._Bill]

Not to beat a dead horse, or horsepower, or whatever, but do dealers actually have the title in their name? If that is the case, then wouldn't every car a dealer received have the title in their names? I think there has to be some provision that while they are taking legal possession when purchasing the vehicle from the manufacturer, they are not actually the first title holder from a State motor vehicle perspective. Maybe this varies by State?

What I'm trying to say without rambling any more, is there has to be some provision for the dealer to purchase the vehicle without being the first title holder. If that was not the case, the Carfax or other report would always show the dealer as the first owner of the vehicle and the registration in their name.

The dealer is the conduit between the manufacturer and the purchaser. They hold the vehicles and do all required paperwork to get it registered with the State. They don't register the vehicles with the State and get a title unless they are going to be using it for more than test drives before it is sold.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Not to beat a dead horse, or horsepower, or whatever, but do dealers actually have the title in their name? If that is the case, then wouldn't every car a dealer received have the title in their names? I think there has to be some provision that while they are taking legal possession when purchasing the vehicle from the manufacturer, they are not actually the first title holder from a State motor vehicle perspective. Maybe this varies by State?

What I'm trying to say without rambling any more, is there has to be some provision for the dealer to purchase the vehicle without being the first title holder. If that was not the case, the Carfax or other report would always show the dealer as the first owner of the vehicle and the registration in their name.

They do buy them without having a title issued - unless used as a demo/rental, etc.

New cars arrive at the dealership with a "certificate of origin" from the manufacturer or MSO, not a title. The dealership is an intermediary of sorts.

 

[Deleted member 67086]

While car dealerships often appear to own the new vehicles on their lot, most dealerships don't outright own the cars they are selling. Instead, they utilize a financing method called "floorplan financing" to acquire their inventory. This involves a loan from the manufacturer's finance company or a bank, allowing them to showcase a wide selection of vehicles without needing to purchase them individually upfront.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Floorplan Financing:
  Dealerships use this method to finance their new car inventory. It's essentially a line of credit that allows them to take possession of vehicles and display them for sale.
• Loan from Manufacturer or Bank:
  The financing is typically provided by the manufacturer's financial arm or a bank, and the dealership pays interest on the loan amount.
• Interest Payments:
  The dealership pays interest on the loan until the vehicle is sold. This is why they are motivated to sell cars quickly to minimize their financing costs.

 

[shelby865]

Not to beat a dead horse, or horsepower, or whatever, but do dealers actually have the title in their name? If that is the case, then wouldn't every car a dealer received have the title in their names? I think there has to be some provision that while they are taking legal possession when purchasing the vehicle from the manufacturer, they are not actually the first title holder from a State motor vehicle perspective. Maybe this varies by State?

What I'm trying to say without rambling any more, is there has to be some provision

Not to beat a dead horse, or horsepower, or whatever, but do dealers actually have the title in their name? If that is the case, then wouldn't every car a dealer received have the title in their names? I think there has to be some provision that while they are taking legal possession when purchasing the vehicle from the manufacturer, they are not actually the first title holder from a State motor vehicle perspective. Maybe this varies by State?

What I'm trying to say without rambling any more, is there has to be some provision for the dealer to purchase the vehicle without being the first title holder. If that was not the case, the Carfax or other report would always show the dealer as the first owner of the vehicle and the registration in their name.

for the dealer to purchase the vehicle without being the first title holder. If that was not the case, the Carfax or other report would always show the dealer as the first owner of the vehicle and the registration in their name.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Not to beat a dead horse, or horsepower, or whatever, but do dealers actually have the title in their name? If that is the case, then wouldn't every car a dealer received have the title in their names? I think there has to be some provision that while they are taking legal possession when purchasing the vehicle from the manufacturer, they are not actually the first title holder from a State motor vehicle perspective. Maybe this varies by State?

What I'm trying to say without rambling any more, is there has to be some provision for the dealer to purchase the vehicle without being the first title holder. If that was not the case, the Carfax or other report would always show the dealer as the first owner of the vehicle and the registration in their name.

There was some weird stuff with the leftover diesels after the stop sale where dealers were "buying" the truck and getting the title in the dealer's name. The truck would be new with 10 miles on it, but couldn't be transferred or traded to a closer dealer because technically it was used vehicle once the dealer owned it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

There was some weird stuff with the leftover diesels after the stop sale where dealers were "buying" the truck and getting the title in the dealer's name.

I might take that 2 ways - after the stop order went into effect, or after it was lifted.............
I wonder why in the world they'd buy, in any case, as due to having a title, it's a used vehicle and they can't sell it as "new" because new means no title, just a certificate of origin, and - the warranty clock started ticking once there was a title issued.

 

[Mr Miami]

I might take that 2 ways - after the stop order went into effect, or after it was lifted.............
I wonder why in the world they'd buy, in any case, as due to having a title, it's a used vehicle and they can't sell it as "new" because new means no title, just a certificate of origin, and - the warranty clock started ticking once there was a title issued.

C'mon ... you have forgotten more stuff than most people around here have ever learned. "Why in the world the'd (another dealer) buy it ....." Because, as you know, they have this vehicle of questionable origin but after playing 3 card monte with a customer several times, the customer thinks they made some great deal and the dealer smiles and says "you're lucky, we normally don't make this good of a deal. Good luck with your new Gladiator." Rince and repeat .... rince and repeat .... rince and repeat.

Then someone starts a thread on what they have done, or should have done, or should not have done, or whatever and wondering if they got a good deal. Rince again.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

I might take that 2 ways - after the stop order went into effect, or after it was lifted.............
I wonder why in the world they'd buy, in any case, as due to having a title, it's a used vehicle and they can't sell it as "new" because new means no title, just a certificate of origin, and - the warranty clock started ticking once there was a title issued.

I was shopping them at the end of 2024, I think some dealers were buying them for some reason before 2025 since they were all 2023 models? It was a pain in the ass though because I would have gladly bought one of the punkn ones if they could have transferred it closer to me.

 

[Mr Miami]

I was shopping them at the end of 2024, I think some dealers were buying them for some reason before 2025 since they were all 2023 models? It was a pain in the ass though because I would have gladly bought one of the punkn ones if they could have transferred it closer to me.

Was it that much to have it shipped? How far away was the dealer? Not a nice weekend get-away to go on a road trip?

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Was it that much to have it shipped? How far away was the dealer? Not a nice weekend get-away to go on a road trip?

Most were 1500-2000 miles. Plus driving it back across the Rockies in the middle of winter seemed like a hassle. Shipping is in the $2k-$3k range. I found a great deal on one with 5,000 miles on it that was only a day trip away.

 

[Mr Miami]

Most were 1500-2000 miles. Plus driving it back across the Rockies in the middle of winter seemed like a hassle. Shipping is in the $2k-$3k range. I found a great deal on one with 5,000 miles on it that was only a day trip away.

Wow, 1500-2000 miles. That is a hike unless you doing it for a vacation in a better time of the year. Closer to home sounds better.

 

[Gvsukids]

Rince again.

Are you British? I think you mean, "rinse."

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