Water in headlights normal?

[Patrol65]

Purchased a 2024 rubicon x few weeks ago. When the temp is close to 30’ the headlights get condensation inside. Service advised the headlights take some time to break in or burn off the moisture inside from when they were sealed. Serves manager called and advised several months ago they received a notice from jeep that this is normal. Anyone have issue or get this info from a dealer?

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[SC Notary]

Kinda takes the "sealed" right out of sealed beam.

 

[Patrol65]

Right!

Just hard pill to swallow. I have even bought led headlights on pervious vehicles and had no condensation form inside them.

 

[Minty JL]

Simple answer is no.........warranty those shits before they completely fail.

 

[Vtur]

That's not normal. They are full of shit. Bring it back and just tell them to replace it. Don't ask them if it's normal.

 

[Minty JL]

The LED headlights on my '19 JLUR have never had this problem.........don't be dismissive, get them replaced under warranty

 

[Mr._Bill]

Purchased a 2024 rubicon x few weeks ago. When the temp is close to 30’ the headlights get condensation inside. Service advised the headlights take some time to break in or burn off the moisture inside from when they were sealed. Serves manager called and advised several months ago they received a notice from jeep that this is normal. Anyone have issue or get this info from a dealer?

Take it to another dealer. If they give you the same story, tell them you want a copy of the notification from Jeep saying that it is normal behavior. LED lights are a little different than incandescent, since the inside assembly that generates light is usually sealed, but I've never known moisture in the headlights to be normal.

 

[jac04]

Some condensation 'haze' is normal according to most manufacturers. However, what you are seeing is not normal. As soon as there is enough moisture to cause any type of liquid water running down the inside of the lens, then the headlight is defective and should be replaced.

FWIW, I have the LED headlights on my 2021 JTM and I have never seen any condensation at all on the inside of the headlights. My 2014 JK has JW Speaker LED headlights, and I will occasionally see condensation inside the lenses, but it goes away on its own - which is 'normal' according to JWS.

 

[Buckhorn]

Purchased a 2024 rubicon x few weeks ago. When the temp is close to 30’ the headlights get condensation inside. Service advised the headlights take some time to break in or burn off the moisture inside from when they were sealed. Serves manager called and advised several months ago they received a notice from jeep that this is normal. Anyone have issue or get this info from a dealer?

I had a couple of JKs that had that problem. There were tiny pinholes in the lens from stone pecks that let moisture in.

 

[GI Grandpa]

Unless someone put the blinker fluid in the wrong lights, that is not normal and you can Google service bulletin. I would call the SM on his BS.

 

[g8tor2020]

I have never seen moisture in my headlight *ever* I have a 2020 Rubicon. I'd be surprised if the dealership actually warranties the headlight without actually failing. Maybe you can get the headlight to fail . Similar thing happened to me on another vehicle non jeep. Moisture started building inside the headlight took it to the dealership and they refused to warranty claiming that the headlight hasn't failed. 1 year later the headlight failed and I was out of warranty had to pony up over 1k for a brand new one.

 

[Patrol65]

I got them to put it in writing the lights need to have a break in period of several hundred miles to get ride of the moisture. Hoping to get few more pics of it happening and a few pics of other gladiator in 30’ temp with it not happening. (If anyone wants take pic of their headlights , and send me pics) Then contact another dealer.

 

[Slipshodman]

My Daughter has had 2 taillights (LED) on her JL replaced unquestioned (under warranty) due to moisture inside after rain. I do not see why an LED headlight would be any different, It is definitely not normal in my opinion

 

[Vtur]

I got them to put it in writing the lights need to have a break in period of several hundred miles to get ride of the moisture. Hoping to get few more pics of it happening and a few pics of other gladiator in 30’ temp with it not happening. (If anyone wants take pic of their headlights , and send me pics) Then contact another dealer.

Headlight break in period? This is first for me. Damn lol

 

[jac04]

I got them to put it in writing the lights need to have a break in period of several hundred miles to get ride of the moisture.

Your dealer is incompetent. Why they do not want to correctly troubleshoot and repair this problem is baffling to me. It amazes me as to what passes for customer service these days.

As soon as the water forms droplets that run down the inside of the lens, the headlight has failed and must be replaced. Your dealership should have been able to diagnose as a failed light within 30 minutes. 10 minutes to get you into the bay, and 20 minutes with the headlights on to determine it has failed.

Here is a Jeep TSB showing what Jeep considers to be a failure. It states:
If the condensation/fogging has not begun to clear after 20 minutes with the lamps operating, or the lamp has large amounts of water droplets visible on most internal surfaces, this indicates a problem with the lamp sealing that has allowed water to enter the lamp. In this instance, the customer is also likely to report that moisture in the lamp is always present and never disappears. A lamp that exhibits internal moisture permanently should be replaced.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10221500-9999.pdf

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