Water in Transmission from 4WD'ing, is this covered under manufacturer Car Warranty?

[ShadowsPapa]

mini coopers eat rear brakes faster than the front. Its even a standard replacement thing every 20k i believe. The compound on Mini's are super aggressive though and they leave a very noticeable layer of brake dust in as little as 80-100 miles after washing em. definitely should NOT be a thing on a gladiator though. Ima say he got a seized caliper or something.

Interesting on the mini. my wife's good quilting friend owned one for several years, drove it everywhere (it was her only vehicle and she liked to shop a lot).
I'll ask my wife to ask Kathryn how that mini faired with all of her stop and go road trips all over central Iowa.

I try to observe as much as possible what other Jeep owners (Wrangler or Gladiator) run into so as to sort of be aware of "what's going on" and maybe what to expect with my own.
I read a lot, and tend to notice trends, and unless I'm really missing things - there's not a lot of reports of brake "problems" other than personal

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[troverman]

In my experience, at least with newer vehicles, the rear brakes are consistently wearing out quicker than the front brakes. Never used to be that way, and with front brakes doing most of the work, most of the time, it doesn't seem to make logical sense. Dad's F-150 needed rear brakes at 40k miles. He's at 70k miles total now, and the fronts are original. Is it because the rears use smaller brakes? I don't know. More aggressive programming on rear traction / stability controls? I don't know. Just my experience. The Gladiator does have nice large rear brakes, larger rotors than on the front, although the rear calipers are only single piston.

By the way, @smlobx, I have been perfectly civil. I just don't agree necessarily with what everyone else thinks on this matter.

 

[PuddleJumper]

Interesting on the mini. my wife's good quilting friend owned one for several years, drove it everywhere (it was her only vehicle and she liked to shop a lot).
I'll ask my wife to ask Kathryn how that mini faired with all of her stop and go road trips all over central Iowa.

I try to observe as much as possible what other Jeep owners (Wrangler or Gladiator) run into so as to sort of be aware of "what's going on" and maybe what to expect with my own.
I read a lot, and tend to notice trends, and unless I'm really missing things - there's not a lot of reports of brake "problems" other than personal

your definitely on to something though. I wheel heavily, burnouts, drifting and my rear pads are still totally fine at 28k. I definitely tread the line of abuse.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

your definitely on to something though. I wheel heavily, burnouts, drifting and my rear pads are still totally fine at 28k. I definitely tread the line of abuse.

Yeah, you do...but know it.
Interesting character for sure. (That's not intended as insult)

 

[Hootbro]

On a running average, I think the brakes on the Gladiator are pretty decent. It is a wear item so there is going to be some variances here and there.

Might be a little too much if your experience does not match mine, then you are doing something wrong going on here.

 

[Lost1wing]

I wanted to mention the same thing about brake wear. Good grief!

 

[Lost1wing]

mini coopers eat rear brakes faster than the front. Its even a standard replacement thing every 20k i believe. The compound on Mini's are super aggressive though and they leave a very noticeable layer of brake dust in as little as 80-100 miles after washing em. definitely should NOT be a thing on a gladiator though. Ima say he got a seized caliper or something.

205k on my 2004 mini Cooper. I have never had to replace the rear brakes. I do see the rear pads on the Gladiator getting thinner. If I get 60k from them I'll be lucky.

 

[PuddleJumper]

205k on my 2004 mini Cooper. I have never had to replace the rear brakes. I do see the rear pads on the Gladiator getting thinner. If I get 60k from them I'll be lucky.

Do you have an S or JCW?

 

[Lost1wing]

Do you have an S or JCW?

I had the S. I sold it maybe 4 years ago.

 

[PuddleJumper]

I had the S. I sold it maybe 4 years ago.

Strange. I went through brakes on my 09’ 11’ and 22’ quite often. I did track the first two quite a bit though

 

[ShadowsPapa]

On a running average, I think the brakes on the Gladiator are pretty decent. It is a wear item so there is going to be some variances here and there.

Might be a little too much if your experience does not match mine, then you are doing something wrong going on here.

What I see as "doing wrong" here is - using a Jeep to those extremes, and not doing one's own due diligence, relying only on others.

How many people take a Jeep into God's country, away from roads and repairs and others who can help, and don't check it over before going there, then again after getting back, washing out sand and mud?

I'd never think of going out where no one could hear you, alone with the bears and wolves, and not doing a good check of things first.

When one uses a vehicle that hard, I even suspect on the extreme side of what these are meant for, you should expect things to break or wear - and act accordingly.

I get how most vehicle owners pull out of the garage for a 500 mile trip and never bother to check anything at all, but this is a bit different.

Maybe I'm just a bit too much of a stickler on personal responsibility, understanding risks - and preventative checks or maintenance! So I expect others to at least look things over before going through mud or water over the wheels, and then for sure after.

 

[Lost1wing]

Strange. I went through brakes on my 09’ 11’ and 22’ quite often. I did track the first two quite a bit though

I did road Atlanta once. It was actually the wife's car, until she couldn't stand to drive it. When my daughter got it and a superspeeder. Attorney and money got her out of that mess and kept my insurance from going up. I was looking at taking the supercharger off for maintenance. You had to split it open to add/check the oil. Mini's went to turbo-charged shortly after 04/05's?

 

[Hootbro]

What I see as "doing wrong" here is - using a Jeep to those extremes, and not doing one's own due diligence, relying only on others.

How many people take a Jeep into God's country, away from roads and repairs and others who can help, and don't check it over before going there, then again after getting back, washing out sand and mud?

I'd never think of going out where no one could hear you, alone with the bears and wolves, and not doing a good check of things first.

When one uses a vehicle that hard, I even suspect on the extreme side of what these are meant for, you should expect things to break or wear - and act accordingly.

I get how most vehicle owners pull out of the garage for a 500 mile trip and never bother to check anything at all, but this is a bit different.

Maybe I'm just a bit too much of a stickler on personal responsibility, understanding risks - and preventative checks or maintenance! So I expect others to at least look things over before going through mud or water over the wheels, and then for sure after.

Wait, I thought this turned into a brake thread?

 

[PuddleJumper]

I did road Atlanta once. It was actually the wife's car, until she couldn't stand to drive it. When my daughter got it and a superspeeder. Attorney and money got her out of that mess and kept my insurance from going up. I was looking at taking the supercharger off for maintenance. You had to split it open to add/check the oil. Mini's went to turbo-charged shortly after 04/05's?

Yup all mine are turbo

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Wait, I thought this turned into a brake thread?

It's a transmission, brake and break thread and could be so much more!

Silly silly me, I guess I figured one who knew the ins and outs of extreme off-roading, when you run through mud, and as it was described, muck, and go out into the sticks, you check fluids, belts, hoses, and crawl under it to see what the u-joints and brakes look like.

I just expect too much, I guess. Oh, well.

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