What did you do TO your Gladiator today? [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS, NO GUN TALK]

[imallcrawl]

Hey @imallcrawl , I had a cousin who went to Hawaii worked on a pineapple plantation and was going to school down there liked it so much He stayed and never came back .

I don't know a single person who actually worked on a pineapple 'field' and I lived here my entire life However, Dole Plantation was a client of the agency I worked at and I actually did a lot of work for their marketing back in the day.

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[Stan H]

@imallcrawl Well his last name was Tillman . I figure I aint seen him in 40yrs.

 

[imallcrawl]

@imallcrawl Well his last name was Tillman . I figure I aint seen him in 40yrs.

As small as this island is, with so much people here it would be almost impossible for me to have ran into him. But who knows, if he lived here for over 40 years I probably did

 

[Stan H]

As small as this island is, with so much people here it would be almost impossible for me to have ran into him. But who knows, if he lived here for over 40 years I probably did

Maybe I need to find out if He is still down there He was about 10-15 yrs ago.

 

[Freems]

I replaced the windscreen today.
Original was about as clear as a sorority house window.
Hard to peep thru.
Installed front & rear class 3 hitches.
I never know which way to go, so I covered both ends.
Installed Molle panels & side steps last week.
Now, I can reach to clean the windows WITHOUT fracking #8 & 9 ribs.
Installation was painful.

Pictures please. Thanks

 

[Toothgnasher]

Why in the rain? Lol

Well, I went to do it at lunch, and storms threatened, so I just left the hardtop restign on the jeep. After work I started taking it off, and another storm hit, so I put the freedom panels back on, and finally a buddy came to help with the hard top removal. We pulled it off, put the belt trim on, and another stom hit. Made as much sense finishing the job at that point. :D

 

[brsnow2585]

Well yesterday I got after pulling out some old dock posts, first one came out easy, second one put up a fight. Something bound up and blew apart an outer front U joint. After some time of 'more colorful metaphores' I dove down and pulled the post out by hand fueled by pure piss and vinegar. Small sense of revenge, now I get to navigate if they'll cover it under the power train warranty. Looking at the broken pieces it does look like the casting could have been suspect.

 

[Zachanadandy]

I want to tell you all about growing up in rural WV around friends and family going to together helping neighbors with their hay fixing a strangers flat tire.
But then again maybe it was just my life.

People were great to each other in all the small towns back then. That's not my point. Husbands were also allowed to beat their children and even their wives for as little as a look or a word they didn't want to hear, and many did. Claiming people were nicer back then is ignoring the socially accepted brutality behind closed doors. Outwardly sure, but overall I'm still saying nope.

 

[Rusty PW]

People were great to each other in all the small towns back then. That's not my point. Husbands were also allowed to beat their children and even their wives for as little as a look or a word they didn't want to hear, and many did. Claiming people were nicer back then is ignoring the socially accepted brutality behind closed doors. Outwardly sure, but overall I'm still saying nope.

That still goes on today.

 

[Zachanadandy]

That still goes on today.

Of course it does, but I'd argue it's far less. Between child abuse allegations being taken seriously and prosecuted regularly and the nearly 60% divorce rate women and children are far more protected these days. I'll take a society where people are good to their families and don't hold doors or wave at strangers over the opposite any day. Fake nice...or fake anything for that matter, doesn't impress me. We do both, as we raised our family to do. So do many others. But pretending society was better when women were treated as property and children were treated worse than I'd ever treat one of my dogs because you didn't have to lock your doors and people waved is wild.

 

[Zachanadandy]

If you say so.

Again, I'm not saying it was everyone. But you're living in a fairytale if you think beating your children and even your wife was common in the 40s, 50s, and 60s.

 

[Hootbro]

I am Gen X and while corporal punishment at both home and even in the schools was still a common thing, I can probably count on one hand the amount of times it was administered to me growing up. Adult me can say those handful of times they were warranted because the behavior it was trying to correct, time outs and talking the problem through would not have stopped me from doing it again.

Sure, back then there was the husband/fathers that beat their wives because the lasagna was served cold and little Johnny crushed dads smokes in his t-shirt pocket when he hugged him, but those same dudes are still around today and would do the same.

I can understand the use of corporal punishment as discipline vs. actual abuse. Some people see any use of corporal punishment as abuse regardless.

 

[Zachanadandy]

I am Gen X and while corporal punishment at both home and even in the schools was still a common thing, I can probably count on one hand the amount of times it was administered to me growing up. Adult me can say those handful of times they were warranted because the behavior it was trying to correct, time outs and talking the problem through would not have stopped me from doing it again.

Sure, back then there was the husband/fathers that beat their wives because the lasagna was served cold and little Johnny crushed dads smokes in his t-shirt pocket when he hugged him, but those same dudes are still around today and would do the same.

I can understand the use of corporal punishment as discipline vs. actual abuse. Some people see any use of corporal punishment as abuse regardless.

I've seen it over used far too many times. I open hand slapped my teenage son across the face 1 time in his entire childhood and that was after he tried to get physical with me. Spanking doesn't do anything. You aren't going to hit them hard enough to change behavior and if you are then it's leaving bruises and is abuse. I've never even hit my dogs. I've put hands on plenty of grown men, but they earned it and were adult enough to know the situation they were creating.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I've seen it over used far too many times. I open hand slapped my teenage son across the face 1 time in his entire childhood and that was after he tried to get physical with me. Spanking doesn't do anything. You aren't going to hit them hard enough to change behavior and if you are then it's leaving bruises and is abuse. I've never even hit my dogs. I've put hands on plenty of grown men, but they earned it and were adult enough to know the situation they were creating.

All it took was a time or two - and my neighbor could give his kids "the look" and that was that. He never had to do anything from there on. That couple made no exceptions. once a child discovers you are not consistent or one handles things differently from the other, that's it.

timeouts - a joke.
Conversation with a kid that doesn't have the matured mind to negotiate and understand - not going to work.

A willow or poplar switch hurts like heck - and once with that, and you only need to look at it and a consistent parent has won control of things.

Age matters, of course - different things work at different ages. There's no one size fits all.
Millions of us got the willow switch, and millions have administered it - and guess what - no harm.


In school - it was more the public humiliation of being administered the punishment than anything else. I watched more than one administered "the paddle" in front of the group and it was the pain of being seen being far greater than a ping pong paddle pain would ever be.

As time went on, the students who were controlled earlier found out that teachers could no longer do anything than talk or write notes, and all of a sudden, they got to the point of abusing the teacher, stabbing and more. In grade school, punishment was allowed - even the eraser flying by your ear bit. And the parents supported it. Then along comes the "you keep your hands off my little johnny" bit and control was lost.

There's a line of course - and too many crossed it. But I could tell in my parents' eyes - they felt it as much as we did. My brothers - very very successful, successful kids.

 

[Zachanadandy]

All it took was a time or two - and my neighbor could give his kids "the look" and that was that. He never had to do anything from there on. That couple made no exceptions. once a child discovers you are not consistent or one handles things differently from the other, that's it.

timeouts - a joke.
Conversation with a kid that doesn't have the matured mind to negotiate and understand - not going to work.

A willow or poplar switch hurts like heck - and once with that, and you only need to look at it and a consistent parent has won control of things.

Age matters, of course - different things work at different ages. There's no one size fits all.
Millions of us got the willow switch, and millions have administered it - and guess what - no harm.


In school - it was more the public humiliation of being administered the punishment than anything else. I watched more than one administered "the paddle" in front of the group and it was the pain of being seen being far greater than a ping pong paddle pain would ever be.

As time went on, the students who were controlled earlier found out that teachers could no longer do anything than talk or write notes, and all of a sudden, they got to the point of abusing the teacher, stabbing and more. In grade school, punishment was allowed - even the eraser flying by your ear bit. And the parents supported it. Then along comes the "you keep your hands off my little johnny" bit and control was lost.

There's a line of course - and too many crossed it. But I could tell in my parents' eyes - they felt it as much as we did. My brothers - very very successful, successful kids.

All I have ever had to do was raise my voice and the kids knew better. No beatings. Smash your Xbox and then make you earn every penny to buy a new one works plenty well. Sure it's more work and you have to be more consistent, but you can raise responsible and respectful children without beating them. What if I told you positive reinforcement has been proven to be more effective? Reward the right behavior while punishing the wrong behavior and even without violence they'll be just fine. Anyone else finds it odd that virtually every serial killer ever was beaten as a child? Sure in moderation and coupled with proper parenting it can be a tool but I'll still argue it's the easier way which is why it was so popular.

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