When will the strike end? My repair is waiting for parts!!!

[Flyboy2109]

Meanwhile, those of us with manuals wait for the parts for two recalls now.

I sympathize with the UAW when we compare executive compensation to theirs. They made the money that pays the execs. I can't feel for the exec who walks to the restroom and makes $1000. There is NOBODY worth that.

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[Aj58]

I made the mistake of doing a deep dive on the UAW workers Facebook page and none of the ones on there seem to be ready to go back to work, lol. I know that's not all of them and I am sure there's plenty that would like to get back to work. There's a post on there with Ford's latest offer and its pretty dang good and most of them are saying no way. Its kind of crazy. I am not used to that type of attitude I guess.

lol true. There’s a lot of dynamics to this and how they feel about the strike and how it affects them.

Maybe I’m just more concerned that Jeep hasn’t released the pricing on the 24’s yet. For the 24 wranglers they revealed pricing about 2 weeks after the release. Going into week 4 now with no pricing. I get it, but just don’t know how much more I can justify paying for a 24 when there already priced well above the competition.

 

[Hootbro]

They made the money that pays the execs. I can't feel for the exec who walks to the restroom and makes $1000. There is NOBODY worth that.

UAW are not entitled to more than the compensation they were paid for the labor they expended. Any "value" that comes from their labor is not an entitlement nor should they have say on where it is expended.

If I am selling my house and paying a landscaping company $5k to improve my property that brings me $30K extra in value at closing time, they are not entitled to any share of that extra $25K. They sure as shit would not be accepting any share or taken on any burden if there was a loss of value.

 

[Phishs]

lol true. There’s a lot of dynamics to this and how they feel about the strike and how it affects them.

Maybe I’m just more concerned that Jeep hasn’t released the pricing on the 24’s yet. For the 24 wranglers they revealed pricing about 2 weeks after the release. Going into week 4 now with no pricing. I get it, but just don’t know how much more I can justify paying for a 24 when there already priced well above the competition.

I am waiting for the same. I check everyday.

 

[MacJTCanada]

I am waiting for the same. I check everyday.

My water pump blew 2 days ago... new water pump was a "undermined" amount of wait due to the strike and stuff.... luckily the shop I took it to just did a hemi swap on a 3.6 so they yoinked the water pump off that for me! Got lucky and dodged a bullet. Hopefully you can get the parts soon! Definitely need more aftermarket support for the 3.6 engines, that I must say. A 3.8 or 3.6 on jks has a bunch! Makes parts for the GFs jeep a lot easier to get if you need them then and there.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

If I am selling my house and paying a landscaping company $5k to improve my property that brings me $30K extra in value at closing time, they are not entitled to any share of that extra $25K. They sure as shit would not be accepting any share or taken on any burden if there was a loss of value.

And if all the landscapers decide their work is worth $10k because everyone is getting an extra $30k for their houses, then you either pay it, or don't get your landscaping done. UAW has decided their labor is worth more. The big three are deciding how much it's worth to them.

 

[Hootbro]

And if all the landscapers decide their work is worth $10k because everyone is getting an extra $30k for their houses, then you either pay it, or don't get your landscaping done. UAW has decided their labor is worth more. The big three are deciding how much it's worth to them.

In the Real World they are not all unionized. Even if the were, they are still not entitled to any value beyond there wages paid for the labor they expended.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

In the Real World they are not all unionized. Even if the were, they are still not entitled to any value beyond there wages paid for the labor they expended.

They aren't saying they are entitled to "value beyond wages paid" (which is just profit sharing). They are saying "Our labor now costs X amount, and we have seen your profits and exec salaries, so we know you can afford it".

 

[sharpsicle]

And if all the landscapers decide their work is worth $10k because everyone is getting an extra $30k for their houses, then you either pay it, or don't get your landscaping done. UAW has decided their labor is worth more. The big three are deciding how much it's worth to them.

Yeah, and then you'd be the first person to complain about how the landscaper is gouging you ?

You can't have it both ways folks.

 

[Hootbro]

They aren't saying they are entitled to "value beyond wages paid" (which is just profit sharing). They are saying "Our labor now costs X amount, and we have seen your profits and exec salaries, so we know you can afford it".

Had a teenage daughter that used the same argument wanting a raise in her chore allowance saying I could afford it. All true but it was quasi extortion.

She did not get the raise.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Yeah, and then you'd be the first person to complain about how the landscaper is gouging you ?

You can't have it both ways folks.

I honestly don't complain about other people's labor costs, never sell yourself short. If anything, I comment when they are low. The landscaper we hired for the rental doesn't use any sprays or chemicals, and hand pulls all the weeds for $60/hr. I was telling the wife that seems low, not sure how you make a living doing that.

 

[sharpsicle]

I honestly don't complain about other people's labor costs, never sell yourself short. If anything, I comment when they are low. The landscaper we hired for the rental doesn't use any sprays or chemicals, and hand pulls all the weeds for $60/hr. I was telling the wife that seems low, not sure how you make a living doing that.

Ah ok, so you must be paying him more than that if you believe it's too low, yes?

Because if not, then you're operating just like these business do. Paying the rate the labor market demands and, if an increase is requested, considering on its merits if it is or is not justified.

And based on your previous comment, the landscaper should increase their charge based on your salary, not their labor value, since they know you can afford it.

I think you're inadvertently making the case for the automakers here.

 

[redriderjf87]

It's always "record profits". Always.

And "regular" people can put money in stocks too.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Because if not, then you're operating just like these business do. Paying the rate the labor market demands and, if an increase is requested, considering on its merits if it is or is not justified.

Yes, this is how things work. And this is what is currently going on with the strike.

And based on your previous comment, the landscaper should increase their charge based on your salary, not their labor value, since they know you can afford it.

Yes, they probably should increase their rates, and I have told her this. Personally, I would want 3x that to go pull weeds over there. And she can do more in an hour, than I could in four hours, because she's a skilled laborer with landscaping and I'm not.

I negotiate a raise every year, you're losing money if you don't.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Sorry, but that is not the UAW's place to be demanding that and is borderline commie bullshit telling a company how and where to spend their money.

You scale that kind of crap down to a local mom and pop business, it would be laughable.

There's a lot more to consider in stock buy-backs. People need to do research. Buybacks can actually reduce costs and make the company more attractive to investors, etc. It's a complex thing.
It's not as cut and dried or as simple as the UAW or Jeep owners believe.

I won't comment on what the UAW us doing now and why at this exact time. Clever people will see through it.

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