While the big Corp is re-prioritizing...... #Jeep

[Uparms]

While the big Corp is re-prioritizing...... #Jeep.

Wouldn't it be great of we could pick from certain, already available in the line up, performance drivetrain selections across ANY of the 8-9 models they dump on us.

wide Trak axles. (standard vs Rubicon/MaxTow)
transfer cases ( Standard, vs Rock Track
suspension ( standard, vs. max tow, vs. Rubicon, vs. Mohave)
tire type (basic stock waste vs MT, vs larger AT))
Even make the LSD available across all lines.

They would still make their big money.

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[wildtaco]

While the big Corp is re-prioritizing...... #Jeep.

Wouldn't it be great of we could pick from certain, already available in the line up, performance drivetrain selections across ANY of the 8-9 models they dump on us.

wide Trak axles. (standard vs Rubicon/MaxTow)
transfer cases ( Standard, vs Rock Track
suspension ( standard, vs. max tow, vs. Rubicon, vs. Mohave)
tire type (basic stock waste vs MT, vs larger AT))
Even make the LSD available across all lines.

They would still make their big money.

Not saying it can't be done, but it's a manufacturing nightmare to setup efficiently.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

The changes they've made are to simplify manufacturing and lower cost.

You're asking to complicate manufacturing and raise costs.

All that would have to be sequenced in, by a third party sequencer because Stellantis doesn't have the ability to do it in house, or added after at an upfitter like leather seats and rock rails are.

Easy money is for them to keep slapping different stickers on the variants they make now and call them special editions.

 

[Viper501]

Easy money is for them to keep slapping different stickers on the variants they make now and call them special editions.

Truth.

Stellantis is not being run by car guys / girls. It is being run by accountants and actuaries. The CEO/CFO’s mega bonuses depend on the posted profits, not on the product. We keep buying their crap so they do not have any incentive to truly change. Cue W.C. Fields / P.T. Barnum comments.

 

[TheSolarWizard]

While the big Corp is re-prioritizing...... #Jeep.

Wouldn't it be great of we could pick from certain, already available in the line up, performance drivetrain selections across ANY of the 8-9 models they dump on us.

wide Trak axles. (standard vs Rubicon/MaxTow)
transfer cases ( Standard, vs Rock Track
suspension ( standard, vs. max tow, vs. Rubicon, vs. Mohave)
tire type (basic stock waste vs MT, vs larger AT))
Even make the LSD available across all lines.

They would still make their big money.

no. They would lose an absolute fortune adding a ton more complexity to the production line.

there should be 3 - 4 tiers low mid large and max spec and zero otions outside interior and exterior color in order to streamline the process.

 

[Clark]

Build your own, buy a used or new, stripped version then build it how you want it, its a jeep thing, been being done since 1942

 

[BourbonRunner]

They and just about every other automaker has gotten as far away from custom orders as possible because of the complexity of manufacturing and increased complexity of the vehicles themselves. That's why everything is bundled and packaged.

We forget on the forums that we're the enthusiasts but a very small segment of the consumer base.

 

[KevinM60]

Build your own, buy a used or new, stripped version then build it how you want it, its a jeep thing, been being done since 1942

Give me a good quality solid foundation that I can build what I want onto. The 3rd party market for Jeeps is big enough to support it.
I suppose the question would be how many customers would want that kind of product to support sales.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Give me a good quality solid foundation that I can build what I want onto. The 3rd party market for Jeeps is big enough to support it.
I suppose the question would be how many customers would want that kind of product to support sales.

In general, everyone says this.

In reality, they line up for a High Tide, WIlly's, Mojave, Rubicon.

I figured out 4-5 new vehicles ago, it's far easier to buy something new close to what I want and add touches to my taste than build from the ground up.

And, in my fleet, I have a Cummins swapped OBS on a SD chassis, a diesel swapped SAS first gen 4runner, a 440 swapped D100, a turbo LS swapped C10...

A big selling point to buying my wife new vehicles, like her Mojave, is we can just put our crap in it an go. It's ready whenever we are.

If you went back to YJ days and offered something, 4 cylinder, manual trans, no doors, no top... Off you go from there... The take rate would be single digit at best, and probably a fraction of a percent.

Same reason people roll every single side by side accessory into their financing.

 

[Janster]

While the big Corp is re-prioritizing...... #Jeep.

Wouldn't it be great of we could pick from certain, already available in the line up, performance drivetrain selections across ANY of the 8-9 models they dump on us.

wide Trak axles. (standard vs Rubicon/MaxTow)
transfer cases ( Standard, vs Rock Track
suspension ( standard, vs. max tow, vs. Rubicon, vs. Mohave)
tire type (basic stock waste vs MT, vs larger AT))
Even make the LSD available across all lines.

They would still make their big money.

They’d lose money…. Do you know how much time, effort, machine setup it takes to just ‘switch’ to something different? Mass production is how they make their money….. producing as many (of the same) and as fast as they can.

It wouldn’t be considered ‘mass production’ if they had to stop everything and produce a ‘few’ one off trucks.

 

[BourbonRunner]

Not saying it can't be done, but it's a manufacturing nightmare to setup efficiently.

They’d lose money…. Do you know how much time, effort, machine setup it takes to just ‘switch’ to something different? Mass production is how they make their money….. producing as many (of the same) and as fast as they can.

It wouldn’t be considered ‘mass production’ if they had to stop everything and produce a ‘few’ one off trucks.

This is exactly where Henry Ford's "any color you like so long as its black" line came from.

Mass manufacturing needs consistency to work at maximum efficiency and profitability.

 

[Viper501]

Ala carte is available from certain manufacturers, such as Porsche, but the cost is passed *directly* to the buyer. In fact if you have enough cash to get rid of they will configure the paint to match your cat. Or whatever other crazy thing you can think of.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

They’d lose money…. Do you know how much time, effort, machine setup it takes to just ‘switch’ to something different? Mass production is how they make their money….. producing as many (of the same) and as fast as they can.

It wouldn’t be considered ‘mass production’ if they had to stop everything and produce a ‘few’ one off trucks.

They don't switch.

They use elaborate ERP systems to assign serialized PN's to VINs far in advance of builds.

So the tier two is molding red seat plastics, for seat 3,498, destined to be built next week at Adient/Lear, who will build seat 3498 on 10/08/2024 and it's assigned to VIN 5, which will be rolling down the line between VINS 4-6 on Thursday 10/10/2024.

Everything is synchronized to come together in order, red, red, blue, black, black, blue, brown.... for exactly the vehicle it's meant for exactly when it's scheduled to be built.

Whole racks of mixed parts roll up to the line, in order, and the laborers just pull the next one, it's the right one.

If it's wrong, they send it anyway, and obviously pandemonium ensues, but the lines, do not stop ever.

The trick is, that process I described, it's for Rams, and Chargers, and Wagoneers...

Toledo North or South has almost no sequencing, they even build them out with all the same seats, take them offsite, rewrap to Rubicon, Mojave, whatever.

Almost every single JL/JT variation over a base sport beyond body color is added offsite.

 

[KevinM60]

In general, everyone says this.

In reality, they line up for a High Tide, WIlly's, Mojave, Rubicon.

I figured out 4-5 new vehicles ago, it's far easier to buy something new close to what I want and add touches to my taste than build from the ground up.

And, in my fleet, I have a Cummins swapped OBS on a SD chassis, a diesel swapped SAS first gen 4runner, a 440 swapped D100, a turbo LS swapped C10...

A big selling point to buying my wife new vehicles, like her Mojave, is we can just put our crap in it an go. It's ready whenever we are.

If you went back to YJ days and offered something, 4 cylinder, manual trans, no doors, no top... Off you go from there... The take rate would be single digit at best, and probably a fraction of a percent.

Same reason people roll every single side by side accessory into their financing.

I have to say that for all intents and purposes that you are right. My thought on that post was to start with a solid foundation and build on that.
I bought a Mojave for that very reason. Many times when I’ve bought something, a house for instance, I had plans to do upgrades and never did them. In this case I have been upgrading my Mojave for more extreme off-roading but didn’t have that plan when I bought it but most of us, myself included, are not that experienced at building and would be better off letting the experts do the high end work. If I was to buy basic for a much lower cost I would spend the money to have the pros do the work I couldn’t do myself.

 

[Rocksalt]

Truth.

Stellantis is not being run by car guys / girls. It is being run by accountants and actuaries. The CEO/CFO’s mega bonuses depend on the posted profits, not on the product. We keep buying their crap so they do not have any incentive to truly change. Cue W.C. Fields / P.T. Barnum comments.

as is any automobile manufacturer

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