Wondering if the former owner of my Gladiator is a forum member

[Jeepmonster]

Ok, ok, I'm sorry for all the pain this has caused. It was mine. Once we conceived our fourth child in it, we realized we needed a bigger car, so we traded it in for a minivan.

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[Gvsukids]

Ok, ok, I'm sorry for all the pain this has caused. It was mine. Once we conceived our fourth child in it, we realized we needed a bigger car, so we traded it in for a minivan.

Now this will probably be the last Jeep they own...

 

[Scott L]

I don't care that much, that i want to bother them directly like that. From the beginning, I thought if they were forum members, and they saw this post, maybe they'd reach out to me with a PM, or in the post. I probably could have word smithed it a lot better, but I didn't think it was necessary. Now, even if they wanted to reach out, after some of the negative posts on here, they have probably been scared off to say anything.
I honestly find the negative posts alarming. Makes me worry about America and it's future as a society. We used to be so much more civilized and social. And the ones who obviously didn't read carefully, yet commented with their bad Intel, like how I had shouldn't have access to the info, (yes, actually I should, because I'm a dealer, and it was sold as a dealer to dealer sale), and being mad at the dealer who sold me the Jeep, and in some cases, not even directing their ire at the right dealer, just showing their rush to judgment without having the facts straight. Then telling me I shouldn't do something I was clearly not doing, as if I need a moral compass from them. No, I didn't, you don't run a company successfully for 54 years by being morally or socially inept.

It's all good anyway !

I have an awesome JTRD, my 7th or 8th Jeep in my lifetime, and have already spent a small fortune on it making it my own, and I love it. Hauls boats and my Hybrid sled trailer like a champ, gets amazing fuel mileage for a jacked up, fat tired truck with zero aerodynamics, (especially after the warn winch bumper and the lift kit), and it went great in deep snow even with towing the sleds. Plus, I think it's bad ass, and that's all that matters now.
Thanks to the guys who took the time to read the post fully, and answer intelligently.
Mark

Well I hope you stick around there is a lot of good info here and usually some help. There is an overall coarsening of our culture especially these last few years. Based on your statement of 54 years in business I’m going to guess we are pretty close in age. Bottom line is you have a nice Jeep and most folks are here to share that as a common bond.

 

[Loves Em Topless]

I think what you ended with here is a simple learning experience. You could've helped yourself out by being clear about all this from the start. You're right, it makes more sense now, but it took 42 posts in this thread before you clarified that you were actually a dealer and not just a regular customer. Then you went and updated the thread title once you saw how easily it could be misinterpreted and how you didn't communicate what you actually wanted to say. It's a good thing you did that, but it's disingenuous to act like you've been fully transparent this whole time. It also took numerous posts for you to clarify that you didn't want to ask "why they gave up on it" like you originally said, but that you wanted to buy some accessories from them. Big difference there too. It doesn't matter who you are or how long you've been running a company, clarity is important. We've got that now; thank you.

People aren't inherently negative, and just like others don't need to find reasons to pick things apart, you don't need to search out reasons to be upset. But it all starts with being clear, not ambiguous. Trying to understand others rather than say everyone else is the problem goes a LONG way both here and in the real world. And I say that for both sides of the conversation. It helps minimize the cleanup you have to do. If this all makes you take it personally or make you doubt America or whatever, I don't know what we can do to help there, but I'm glad you like the Jeep and hope you continue to enjoy it.

Glad to have you here.

Disingenuous?! I strongly disagree, I finally told my wife about this post the other night. My wife, granted, is a very intelligent lady, a CPA, and the Director of Internal Audit for the company she works for, but It didn't take her 42 posts, it took her but one post to get what I was asking the forum. I also showed her the difference in the wording of the title, and the slight difference in meaning, by going back through my emails to the beginning post. For those who didn't see it before, it read
"Anybody know this person, and if he is a member?"
She just shook her head and said, "What don't they get, it's very clear to me you were looking to have them reach out to you, except for mentioning getting the recall done, which really had nothing to do with what you were asking. Other than that, I don't get these guys."
I told her I mentioned the recall because it was so easy to get it taken care of, and the fact that I drove it for 3 months without issue before I even checked on getting it done, so my point was, is that why they "gave up on it", because it was a diesel? I have heard it was a "don't drive" recall, though I've never seen the actual recall letter sent to the owner's.
Whatever the case Sharpsicle, at times you were helpful with your thoughts, and at other times you just perpetuated the issues, which in turn, kept this going way longer than it needed to, requiring repeated statements on my part in my posts. No wonder there were 42 !!
Go ahead, get the last word in, I promise you can have it, I'm done here.

 

[Chadp82]

This thread is kind of like:
I met a gal. Things are getting serious. Before I propose, I would like to find her ex and find out why he ditched her.

do you really want to know who kicked the tires before you?

 

[wildtaco]

Disingenuous?! I strongly disagree, I finally told my wife about this post the other night. My wife, granted, is a very intelligent lady, a CPA, and the Director of Internal Audit for the company she works for, but It didn't take her 42 posts, it took her but one post to get what I was asking the forum. I also showed her the difference in the wording of the title, and the slight difference in meaning, by going back through my emails to the beginning post. For those who didn't see it before, it read
"Anybody know this person, and if he is a member?"
She just shook her head and said, "What don't they get, it's very clear to me you were looking to have them reach out to you, except for mentioning getting the recall done, which really had nothing to do with what you were asking. Other than that, I don't get these guys."
I told her I mentioned the recall because it was so easy to get it taken care of, and the fact that I drove it for 3 months without issue before I even checked on getting it done, so my point was, is that why they "gave up on it", because it was a diesel? I have heard it was a "don't drive" recall, though I've never seen the actual recall letter sent to the owner's.
Whatever the case Sharpsicle, at times you were helpful with your thoughts, and at other times you just perpetuated the issues, which in turn, kept this going way longer than it needed to, requiring repeated statements on my part in my posts. No wonder there were 42 !!
Go ahead, get the last word in, I promise you can have it, I'm done here.

Don't get worked up over some of these guys. They love to make assumptions about your intentions, ask me how I know... It was a simple question that again evolved into a 6 page post.

 

[Hootbro]

Disingenuous?! I strongly disagree, I finally told my wife about this post the other night. My wife, granted, is a very intelligent lady, a CPA, and the Director of Internal Audit for the company she works for, but It didn't take her 42 posts, it took her but one post to get what I was asking the forum. I also showed her the difference in the wording of the title, and the slight difference in meaning, by going back through my emails to the beginning post. For those who didn't see it before, it read
"Anybody know this person, and if he is a member?"
She just shook her head and said, "What don't they get, it's very clear to me you were looking to have them reach out to you, except for mentioning getting the recall done, which really had nothing to do with what you were asking. Other than that, I don't get these guys."
I told her I mentioned the recall because it was so easy to get it taken care of, and the fact that I drove it for 3 months without issue before I even checked on getting it done, so my point was, is that why they "gave up on it", because it was a diesel? I have heard it was a "don't drive" recall, though I've never seen the actual recall letter sent to the owner's.
Whatever the case Sharpsicle, at times you were helpful with your thoughts, and at other times you just perpetuated the issues, which in turn, kept this going way longer than it needed to, requiring repeated statements on my part in my posts. No wonder there were 42 !!
Go ahead, get the last word in, I promise you can have it, I'm done here.

Things get lost sometime on internet forums. Tones, phrasing, body language and eye contact are missed when they normally would happen with a in person conversation and meaning would be taken a totally different way.

I do it all the time and have deleted more than my fair share after posting because what I was thinking and what I put to text can be read different missing those cues previously mentioned.

Not a perfect world and we are all differently tuned into it. I would not let it get to you too much over it.

 

[sharpsicle]

Disingenuous?! I strongly disagree, I finally told my wife about this post the other night. My wife, granted, is a very intelligent lady, a CPA, and the Director of Internal Audit for the company she works for, but It didn't take her 42 posts, it took her but one post to get what I was asking the forum. I also showed her the difference in the wording of the title, and the slight difference in meaning, by going back through my emails to the beginning post. For those who didn't see it before, it read
"Anybody know this person, and if he is a member?"
She just shook her head and said, "What don't they get, it's very clear to me you were looking to have them reach out to you, except for mentioning getting the recall done, which really had nothing to do with what you were asking. Other than that, I don't get these guys."
I told her I mentioned the recall because it was so easy to get it taken care of, and the fact that I drove it for 3 months without issue before I even checked on getting it done, so my point was, is that why they "gave up on it", because it was a diesel? I have heard it was a "don't drive" recall, though I've never seen the actual recall letter sent to the owner's.
Whatever the case Sharpsicle, at times you were helpful with your thoughts, and at other times you just perpetuated the issues, which in turn, kept this going way longer than it needed to, requiring repeated statements on my part in my posts. No wonder there were 42 !!
Go ahead, get the last word in, I promise you can have it, I'm done here.

Please realize that I'm not attacking you. I don't understand why you are you taking this as an attack. If it's validation you're looking for, I'm glad your wife can do that for you. Don't really care what she does for a living though.

There's no problem with admitting there were a few missteps and just move on. We've all done it, it happens, don't get worked up over it. I've deleted or walked back many posts over the years when I realize I communicated poorly. That's okay. But trying to call out the forum as being crazy just for having an evolving discussion and expressing their viewpoints on a subject doesn't make you look good. We all have spirited discussions, some more than others, but that's exactly what a forum is for. I was only trying to help you see why things went the way they did, and why you got the responses you did, in the hopes you'd stay and be a good member of the community.

I don't think you're a bad person. I don't think anyone here does. But it's starting to sound like you want to take things the worst possible way in order to get offended and pick a fight.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I told her I mentioned the recall because it was so easy to get it taken care of, and the fact that I drove it for 3 months without issue before I even checked on getting it done, so my point was, is that why they "gave up on it", because it was a diesel? I have heard it was a "don't drive" recall, though I've never seen the actual recall letter sent to the owner's.

Did I miss something? Dealer, correct? At least for used vehicles if not new, correct? I think I saw that in this mess somewhere.
Then one should realize that there are many reporting agencies (EpicVIN, VinGurus, VINinspect, AutoCheck, NICB VINCheck Lookup, etc.) that can be checked for the history of a vehicle, including, and especially, recalls. And then there's NHTSA as a place I'd check before buying a vehicle - to see if there are any RRTs or recalls, etc.. or Jeep.com to check for history of work done by dealers, recalls and so on.

As far as the rest, oh, please, don't involve wife and talk of intelligence, CPA and all - she knows you and isn't seeing things from the same point of view others are seeing it. Intelligence has zip to do with it, heck, I'm in MENSA territory and still - point of view, and other factors come into play. A person can have a 180 and not get the social bits of conversations (in fact, higher intelligence generally means less savvy socially and getting into things like this.)
Some of the smartest people in history had trouble conveying thoughts or getting along socially.

I likely would have gone in, contrary to my typical LOL and simply said "picked up a nice used Gladiator and am Just curious, is anyone here related to this truck?" and dropped it at that.
We all know that out of the whole world of JT owners, only a fraction of them do anything internet. Same for any vehicle. The online groups like to think otherwise, that they are the vast majority, but it's just not the case. It's not a big percentage. So chances are big - no takers.

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