Sponsored

Death wobble? Steering wheel shakes

LiftedrubiconJT

Well-Known Member
First Name
Cody
Joined
Jul 1, 2020
Threads
71
Messages
480
Reaction score
346
Location
VA
Vehicle(s)
2020 rubicon gladiator
So lately when I hit certain bumps steering wheel will shake back and forth for a few seconds. 2020 rubicon with 46,xxx miles . 2 inch mopar lift and 35s. What would cause this?
Sponsored

 

22EcoDs

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 14, 2021
Threads
16
Messages
1,515
Reaction score
1,684
Location
NY
Vehicle(s)
22jtsD , 06XK, 21KL - Retired(97ZJ,15JKU, 00WJ,)
Back to our programming. Track bar, alignment. Tire pressure, Worn drag link and tie rod ends. Have someone steer it left to right while stopped and look at joints for play
 
OP
OP
LiftedrubiconJT

LiftedrubiconJT

Well-Known Member
First Name
Cody
Joined
Jul 1, 2020
Threads
71
Messages
480
Reaction score
346
Location
VA
Vehicle(s)
2020 rubicon gladiator
Back to our programming. Track bar, alignment. Tire pressure, Worn drag link and tie rod ends. Have someone steer it left to right while stopped and look at joints for play
Thanks. I will try this.
 

Sponsored

John_81583

Active Member
First Name
John
Joined
Aug 18, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
38
Reaction score
20
Location
Oklahoma City
Vehicle(s)
2022 Jeep Gladiator Overland
Occupation
Accountant
So lately when I hit certain bumps steering wheel will shake back and forth for a few seconds. 2020 rubicon with 46,xxx miles . 2 inch mopar lift and 35s. What would cause this?
could be unbalanced tires too
 

Rusty PW

Well-Known Member
First Name
Russ
Joined
Jan 10, 2022
Threads
37
Messages
11,361
Reaction score
30,316
Location
Fayette Nam, Pennsyltucky
Website
www.youtube.com
Vehicle(s)
'22 JTRD, '11 370Z Nismo, '07 Honda VFR
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
Muff Diver

Wat Dog

Well-Known Member
First Name
Wayne
Joined
Jun 11, 2021
Threads
22
Messages
225
Reaction score
480
Location
Baltimore MD
Vehicle(s)
2021 Jeep Gladiator High Altitude
Occupation
Superintendent
I had the same issue. It was the steering damper. It’s a quick fix and covered under warranty, if the parts are available…
 
OP
OP
LiftedrubiconJT

LiftedrubiconJT

Well-Known Member
First Name
Cody
Joined
Jul 1, 2020
Threads
71
Messages
480
Reaction score
346
Location
VA
Vehicle(s)
2020 rubicon gladiator
I had the same issue. It was the steering damper. It’s a quick fix and covered under warranty, if the parts are available…
I have over 46,xxx miles. I’m guessing steering damper would probably be covered under the 36k mile warranty
 

Wat Dog

Well-Known Member
First Name
Wayne
Joined
Jun 11, 2021
Threads
22
Messages
225
Reaction score
480
Location
Baltimore MD
Vehicle(s)
2021 Jeep Gladiator High Altitude
Occupation
Superintendent
I have over 46,xxx miles. I’m guessing steering damper would probably be covered under the 36k mile warranty
Have a diesel with 100k mile warranty and it happened to my jeep around 20k miles
 

Sponsored

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,442
Reaction score
53,860
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
I had the same issue. It was the steering damper. It’s a quick fix and covered under warranty, if the parts are available…
It's not a true fix, it's a bandaid, hides the true causes.


So lately when I hit certain bumps steering wheel will shake back and forth for a few seconds. 2020 rubicon with 46,xxx miles . 2 inch mopar lift and 35s. What would cause this?
There are dozens of posts on this - and the cause isn't one thing. Looking for "the" fix is like asking why you have a fever.

Loose parts, worn parts, tires, certain MODIFICATIONS, including certain tire and wheel changes, there's no one single cause so there's no one single fix.
Ford and others have experienced this since the 1960s.
 

Wat Dog

Well-Known Member
First Name
Wayne
Joined
Jun 11, 2021
Threads
22
Messages
225
Reaction score
480
Location
Baltimore MD
Vehicle(s)
2021 Jeep Gladiator High Altitude
Occupation
Superintendent
It's not a true fix, it's a bandaid, hides the true causes.




There are dozens of posts on this - and the cause isn't one thing. Looking for "the" fix is like asking why you have a fever.

Loose parts, worn parts, tires, certain MODIFICATIONS, including certain tire and wheel changes, there's no one single cause so there's no one single fix.
Ford and others have experienced this since the 1960s.
While I’ve seen the argument on multiple threads about the validity of the repair, I can tell you that my jeep, with a dealer installed Mopar lift, developed the problem and they fixed it with a new steering damper.

Keep fighting the good fight
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,442
Reaction score
53,860
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
While I’ve seen the argument on multiple threads about the validity of the repair, I can tell you that my jeep, with a dealer installed Mopar lift, developed the problem and they fixed it with a new steering damper.

Keep fighting the good fight
whatever you choose to go with........... it's truly only masking the true problem that the truck still has.

Norm Layton says -
Jeep Gladiator Death wobble? Steering wheel shakes 1664892564331

Even a long-time suspension engineer for FCA and other companies concurs.

It typically happens with worn or loose parts, lifts, and tire and wheel swaps that change the scrub radius and cause the tire to want to pivot around a different point, back and forth. So those who swap to the "cool wheels" to "wow their peers" are asking for death wobble.

Jeep Gladiator Death wobble? Steering wheel shakes 1664892691079


If you are happy, then it's cool. But if things are 100% correct, tight, and within engineering design, no damper is needed.

This is a quote from a true expert, not people on forum sitting at home figuring out what the experts and engineers can't -

Jeep Gladiator Death wobble? Steering wheel shakes 1664892936412


Yes, Chrysler says "if it wobbles, replace the damper" in their docs - that's because it's a cheap, easy, fast way to cover what they may spend hours trying to find - and gets the customer home quickly and quiets them down.
 

mdyucca

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mark
Joined
Feb 25, 2021
Threads
11
Messages
762
Reaction score
822
Location
92223
Vehicle(s)
2021 Gladiator
Occupation
Retired
Was the cause identified?
 
OP
OP
LiftedrubiconJT

LiftedrubiconJT

Well-Known Member
First Name
Cody
Joined
Jul 1, 2020
Threads
71
Messages
480
Reaction score
346
Location
VA
Vehicle(s)
2020 rubicon gladiator
Was the cause identified?
No works been crazy and the dealerships near me have been booked up. I’ve tightened all bolts and checked for play. I’m leaning towards a tire issue or steering damper. It’s weird it seems to happen more when it’s colder out.
Sponsored

 
 







Top