do these automatically idle up/accelerate in 4 low to climb over obstacles?

[Gvsukids]

So do we have any apology from @ShadowsPapa or any conclusion agreed upon? Or are we going in circles, which might be harder with an incline than a block of wood?

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[ShadowsPapa]

So do we have any apology from @ShadowsPapa or any conclusion agreed upon? Or are we going in circles, which might be harder with an incline than a block of wood?

Check post a page or two back -

How's it said - mea culpa? but then that's a Latin phrase that is suggesting fault - this was more "wrong/incorrect" than fault. So I guess that phrase doesn't work.
Should be something with err, or error, perhaps erravi?
Eh, that's gotta be close.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I typically leave the room when people who don't know something ask a question and then argue with the answers.
I do have ramps and who knows? Maybe tomorrow I'll get really curious about this. Maybe I'll go fishing.
Place your bets.

The op wasn’t arguing. In fact we had a nice conversation offline. I was arguing with shadows.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Normal for any of them. Mine did the same. Stayed at 800 while my foot was on the brake, then increased when I let off - and it did so until it made it up the hump. Then it idled back down.
So it's not just Rubicon.
Basically, mine behaved exactly like jav_eee's did, no different.

Did it feel dangerous?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Did it feel dangerous?

Knowing what it does - you simply don't pretend it's a Tesla in self-driving mode HA.

Still unsure how it would be "handy" though - maybe you have honest examples of such a use.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Knowing what it does - you simply don't pretend it's a Tesla in self-driving mode HA.

Still unsure how it would be "handy" though - maybe you have honest examples of such a use.

It’s very controlled. I used the word subtle before, but controlled is better. It’s very fun on rocks.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It’s very controlled. I used the word subtle before, but controlled is better. It’s very fun on rocks.

That's a better term, although frankly, both sort of fit as if you didn't pay attention you may not notice what was going on (the subtle part) and the controlled part is - it ramps up slowly and only to a point, and once over the "bump", it drops back down in a controlled way - a bit faster in my case, but not a fast drop. I do wish I would have had JSCAN monitoring certain PIDs as I bet there were some interesting stats involved.
In any case, the tach itself told a story and I could almost hear it working.
I got to a real computer, got the better 11 second video up and you can hear sounds - some of that is me taking my foot off pedals, other is the truck moving and the bump up the ledge of the garage slab you can see my unsteady right hand was jiggled a bit as it crested the top and stopped ramping up.
What it would ever be used for - not sure yet, but it was an interesting bit to see happen in real life.
If I wasn't looking for it, I'd have never known what it was doing - it's that subtle and controlled. Blink and you'd miss it.

I'll make it more clear this time since apparently some others didn't see the subtle bit in another post:
sorry

The 4xe has far more torque and would take such things as if they weren't there, however, the biggest complaint there is that the throttle action is NOT subtle. When you are in 4L and hit a snag, and "give it throttle" (even if in mode electric) it wants to GO. It doesn't seem to slow down the reaction to the gas pedal. It's not as controlled when you are pressing the gas pedal. It needs to be tamed down a bit. It's a bit more jerky in such situations.

 

[willys 41]

I have the exact same problem
I have a 2020 Willys with a 3.6 NON E-torque
I had this happen to me also
It happens on and off road and I don't know how to stop it from happening
The first time I notes it was when I was testing 4wlow on the street and crept up to the curb
As soon as both front tires hit the curb the RPMs on the tachometer went up on its own to about 1000 RPMs . This also happens when I am driving on to some ramps or going over rocks
So whats going on
Why do I loos control of MY throttle input
Any one have the answer
Thanks

 

[jav_eee]

I have the exact same problem
I have a 2020 Willys with a 3.6 NON E-torque
I had this happen to me also
It happens on and off road and I don't know how to stop it from happening
The first time I notes it was when I was testing 4wlow on the street and crept up to the curb
As soon as both front tires hit the curb the RPMs on the tachometer went up on its own to about 1000 RPMs . This also happens when I am driving on to some ramps or going over rocks
So whats going on
Why do I loos control of MY throttle input
Any one have the answer
Thanks

keep your foot on the brake if you don’t want it to do this.

 

[willys 41]

Just try with brake on and you are right. No RPM gain
Put is there any way to turn this off
Thanks

 

[WILDHOBO]

Just try with brake on and you are right. No RPM gain
Put is there any way to turn this off
Thanks

It’s normal behavior. Try disabling hill climb assist.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It’s normal behavior. Try disabling hill climb assist.

There's no hill climb assist on mine - you don't mean HSA, hill start assist, do you? That's totally braking. The ABS applies brakes gently while the Jeep is on a detected hill.

 

[WILDHOBO]

There's no hill climb assist on mine - you don't mean HSA, hill start assist, do you? That's totally braking. The ABS applies brakes gently while the Jeep is on a detected hill.

Yes. Hill start. I’ll try turning mine off to see if it changes. I didn’t think that used braking. Brake hold does though. Hate that feature.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yes. Hill start. I’ll try turning mine off to see if it changes. I didn’t think that used braking. Brake hold does though. Hate that feature.

SUPPOSEDLY, HSA senses the pitch of the truck and if facing up hill, it applies brakes when in a forward gear and if facing down hill, it only works in reverse. I was on level ground in my final test, pitch at 0 degrees on garage floor against 4x4s but the throttle was very active.
I don't even find a decent description of it anywhere - I'll have to connect AlfaOBD or JSCAN and see if there are any settings anywhere that look related.
It's a really intelligent process that's programmed into the thing somehow.

 

[JTRDistraction]

After reading this thread and all the interesting information, even the love/hate relationship stuff(thank you both for all of your helpful contributions!), I tried this in the Cracker Barrel parking lot this morning. It acted exactly as you've all been saying. I put the truck in 4L while up against a curb, took my foot off of the brake, and waited. It went from about an 800rpm idle to about 1000rpm and tried to climb the curb. FYI, it maintained the higher rpm the whole time, but did not climb over(about a 6" obstacle).

It definitely feels controlled and not dangerous. Even though i said, "waited," there wasn't a significant delay, so it wouldn't happen unexpectedly. I wonder what other neat little quirks this thing has?

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