Diesel oil filter; any made in USA?

[DennyInDayton]

Bought Willys Diesel a few weeks ago and I'm one of those who always likes to have filters and fluid on hand. As I've looked a the oil filter it appears you can't just change the media, and so far every brand I've looked at is made in China. Has anyone come across a quality made in USA, or even North America filter for the 3.0 diesel?

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[Rusty PW]

The oil filter and cap is all one piece.

Check in the diesel section.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/diesel-oil-filter-no-longer-available.71369/

This is where I get my filters from.

https://www.dieselfiltersonline.com...m-1500-jeep-wrangler-jl-with-3-0l-diesel.html

Stock up on fuel filters too.

 

[DennyInDayton]

The oil filter and cap is all one piece.

Check in the diesel section.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/diesel-oil-filter-no-longer-available.71369/

This is where I get my filters from.

https://www.dieselfiltersonline.com...m-1500-jeep-wrangler-jl-with-3-0l-diesel.html

Stock up on fuel filters too.

Thanks and Oh yeah on the fuel filters. That other thread still doesn't answer whether there is a US made part. Your photo kind of confirms what I saw that Wix makes the Mopar filter, and it's Chinese. Some online cross references show filter media, not the whole can and are incorrect. Not sure how many are actually making this filter vs reselling it. What is being charged for these filters is ridiculous if they all originate in China. I've picked my oil (Motul, get it through a friend) and now looking for the filter supplier to stock up. First "free" dealer change coming up, I'll be watching to see what they do/use.

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

The dealerships use Mopar branded stuff for everything and if they didn’t, they’d be in trouble with Stellantis. Traditionally, on most parts, from wiper blades, to air filters to brake pads, I’ve never found even reputable brands to work or fit as well as the OEM part. And yes, those OEM parts are just made by suppliers too, like NGK or Bosch, etc. But all of this was before they could spin up these factories in China to produce knockoff junk that’s now flooded the market. I don’t trust 99% of what I see being sold out there. I wouldn’t consider running anything other than an OEM oil or fuel filter with this truck regardless of what country of origin are printed on the respective products. The important thing is that the OEM filters are made to OEM specs and the CYA of having Mopar printed on it when seeking warranty work.

The earlier versions of the 3.0 had an oiling issue and subsequent bearing problem. The current version has issues with the ECU being ultra sensitive to the filter seating or torque or just being generally flaky. I’m currently experiencing intermittent ECU oil pressure warnings when starting up from this bullshit. I wouldn’t suggest rolling into a dealership with issues while running brand X filter while it’s under warranty. Stellantis is already looking for any possible reason to deny warranty claims. Quoting Magnuson–Moss isn’t going to fly for engine components or any critical part that they will claim doesn’t meet spec.

With the Jeep Wave changes, my first dealership - with the current state of post-covid independent dealer industry inshitification, I keep going through dealerships - wasn’t even doing fuel filter changes or draining it, despite my requesting the full maintenance per the schedule. You have to watch and question everything they do. Most of the Jeep dealerships I’ve dealt with claim to have never heard of Jeep Wave or free anything. Your service writer (which all work on commission) now get spiffs for funneling their customers to new sales and their vehicles to used cars so the incentives are all screwy. I also wouldn’t take this engine to a Jeep dealership unless they already do Ecodiesel Ram work. 1 of my freebie oil changes resulted in my truck being towed back. I reverted to doing all my own maintenance after Jeep Wave was used up.

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

Fun Motul Story:

I wanted to switch to Motul gear oil in my transmission on my GT86 back when I had one. The Subaru transmission is a mess that comes loaded with debris from the factory and it was hard to get the car into first sometimes. It’s widely documented that a simple transmission oil change dramatically improves shifting on those cars off the lot. I took mine into my dealership with a case of Motul 300. They not only refused to do the work, they threatened to contact Toyota to void my warranty if I did it. I think that threat was mainly for effect. Their reasoning was that the oil wasn’t Toyota branded. This is despite the entire powertrain being Subaru and the fact that their own TRD performance oil is Motul 300 and says so on the jug. My pointing that out meant nothing. The other wrinkle is that my sister was an executive at this large dealership network. She told me that they were backed up and simply didn’t want to do the work. Apparently the service manager was raising hell up the chain about me wanting to do work out of schedule, so it resulted in all this political pressure and drama. Sometimes knowing someone at a dealership is more of a hindrance. I jacked the car up myself and did it which wasn’t fun and the shifting was now buttery smooth.

 

[Stan H]

Fun Motul Story:

I wanted to switch to Motul gear oil in my transmission on my GT86 back when I had one. The Subaru transmission is a mess that comes loaded with debris from the factory and it was hard to get the car into first sometimes. It’s widely documented that a simple transmission oil change dramatically improves shifting on those cars off the lot. I took mine into my dealership with a case of Motul 300. They not only refused to do the work, they threatened to contact Toyota to void my warranty if I did it. I think that threat was mainly for effect. Their reasoning was that the oil wasn’t Toyota branded. This is despite the entire powertrain being Subaru and the fact that their own TRD performance oil is Motul 300 and says so on the jug. My pointing that out meant nothing. The other wrinkle is that my sister was an executive at this large dealership network. She told me that they were backed up and simply didn’t want to do the work. Apparently the service manager was raising hell up the chain about me wanting to do work out of schedule, so it resulted in all this political pressure and drama. Sometimes knowing someone at a dealership is more of a hindrance. I jacked the car up myself and did it which wasn’t fun and the shifting was now buttery smooth.

No offense but that Motul oil isn't the greatest . If Motul 300 is what the TRD has from the factory ...not accounting for metal trash...why in the world would you want to put the same thing back in I think I would have went with another brand .

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

No offense but that Motul oil isn't the greatest . If Motul 300 is what the TRD has from the factory ...not accounting for metal trash...why in the world would you want to put the same thing back in I think I would have went with another brand .

You misunderstand. I have no idea what comes in the transmission from the factory. Subaru has long history of poor assembly line practices. They don’t properly clean the transmission on the GT86/BRZ, so they get to the customer full of shavings, slag, etc. ideally, you flush the transmission. The most important thing is draining the factory oil and replacing it, not the brand of oil. But I purchased Motul 300 and had a case of it. There’s no reason an SAE approved gear oil of the correct viscosity will void your warranty. Automatic transmission fluid that contains specific additives is the occasional exception. But this is manual transmission gear oil.

TRD is Toyota’s performance parts division. It’s not the model or brand. Their TRD manual transmission oil is rebranded Motul. I have no idea what their standard transmission oil is, that comes in the car. I seriously doubt it’s Motul 300. Personally, the idea of TRD “performance” oil is goofy to me. I have no real opinion on Motul. I bought it on the recommendation of the guys I race with who run Porsche GT3s, Miatas, GT86s, etc. A lot of people swear by it. I was a Jeep guy getting into racing sports cars. Switching to it made a massive improvement in shifting, especially with a short throw shifter. But again it’s mostly a function of getting the old oil and metal shaving out of the transmission. Keep in mind I’m talking transmission gear oil. I’ve always run Mobil 1 motor oil in all my cars. I’ve never gotten spun up over any particular brand of gear oil. Gear oil is gear as far as I’m concerned.

The larger point is that dealerships do this kind of thing all the time for various reasons including simply not wanting to do the work. I’m saying this not just from experience as a consumer but from someone who family has been in the car business for years and knows how a lot of people operate. The dealership was busy doing their bullshit walk in free oil changes for life jobs and didn’t have the capacity even after I scheduled the appointment. Instead of fitting me in or apologizing and rescheduling, they made up a bs excuse and blamed my brand of gear oil.

 

[PuddleJumper]

No offense but that Motul oil isn't the greatest . If Motul 300 is what the TRD has from the factory ...not accounting for metal trash...why in the world would you want to put the same thing back in I think I would have went with another brand .

Thats the first I'm hearing that about Motul. In the track car and motorcycle world. Motul is heralded as a top brand to stand behind. Seen plenty of crotch rockets screaming at 17,000 rpm on motul with no issues. Same with their brake fluid, it has some of the best heat tolerance in the industry.

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

Thats the first I'm hearing that about Motul. In the track car and motorcycle world. Motul is heralded as a top brand to stand behind. Seen plenty of crotch rockets screaming at 17,000 rpm on motul with no issues. Same with their brake fluid, it has some of the best heat tolerance in the industry.

Yep. Motul was off my radar until I started doing performance driving. It’s ubiquitous on the track. I’m not convinced the Porsche guys aren’t drinking it.

 

[ross neill]

Thanks and Oh yeah on the fuel filters. That other thread still doesn't answer whether there is a US made part. Your photo kind of confirms what I saw that Wix makes the Mopar filter, and it's Chinese. Some online cross references show filter media, not the whole can and are incorrect. Not sure how many are actually making this filter vs reselling it. What is being charged for these filters is ridiculous if they all originate in China. I've picked my oil (Motul, get it through a friend) and now looking for the filter supplier to stock up. First "free" dealer change coming up, I'll be watching to see what they do/use.

You should get 3 more free oil changes through Jeep ways but not fuel filters which should be changed at the Same time

 

[PuddleJumper]

Yep. Motul was off my radar until I started doing performance driving. It’s ubiquitous on the track. I’m not convinced the Porsche guys aren’t drinking it.

I heard a S1k guy said it was safe to use as people lube. . A little too happy with Motul imo.

 

[Sweetums]

The oil filter and cap is all one piece.

Check in the diesel section.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/diesel-oil-filter-no-longer-available.71369/

This is where I get my filters from.

https://www.dieselfiltersonline.com...m-1500-jeep-wrangler-jl-with-3-0l-diesel.html

Stock up on fuel filters too.

This. Diesel Filters Online is the best place I've found and it's a genuine MOPAR part. Also get fuel filters - every other oil change is a fuel filter change and every oil change is opening the petcock on the filter housing to drain any water.

Here's the thing about Chinese parts: China will build you whatever you want, if you want cheap shit, China will happily build it for you. If you want something done right, it's more expensive but China can deliver that too. In most cases the branding happens at the QC stage, the best stuff gets the name brand box, the slightly less good gets the off-brand box, and the stuff that fails gets the generic box. All three come out of the same factory.

 

[Sweetums]

No offense but that Motul oil isn't the greatest . If Motul 300 is what the TRD has from the factory ...not accounting for metal trash...why in the world would you want to put the same thing back in I think I would have went with another brand .

I've been using Motul exclusively in my race bikes and my street bikes - Honda, Yamaha, Ducati, and Aprilia all run Motul. The 300V is good for a race weekend, but needs to be changed after each race day. I usually run Motul 5100 because it lasts longer and fits the sport touring I do better. I've never had an oil issue with it.
Out at the track you pretty much only see Motul in the pits, maybe a few people running other brands or OEM, but not usually. I can't remember ever seeing Repsol out there. Remember, these are racers who regularly send their oil for analysis and most open their engines at least once a year.

 

[Stan H]

For Filters I always went to the Cummins dealer when I had the big 6.7L it literally was the same filter with a different label slapped on it and I could get it cheaper by a long shot than from Chrysler. Have you tried Geno's Garage ? I dont know where the Chrysler brand is even made for the JTD's

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