Max tongue weight for 2024 Sport S with automatic trans and tow pkg (not Max tow)?

[gonemad]

I am searching high and low and can’t seem to find these ratings. The owner’s manual references:
TRAILER TOWING WEIGHTS (MAXIMUM TRAILER WEIGHT RATINGS)
Note:
For trailer towing information (maximum trailer weight ratings) refer to the following website addresses:

• www.jeep.com
• jeep.ca (Canada)

To locate your vehicle towing specs:

1. Select the vehicles drop down to select your vehicle
2. Select model
3. Select year
4. Select specs

But there’s no further specs on tow ratings except the basic 4000lb tow limit for manual trans.

It just haint there, as far as I can tell. I have seen tables of ratings depending on model and equipment for earlier models (like 2020), but can’t find it for a 2024 with automatic trans, and tow package (not max tow). Previous years had four different ratings for the Sport S depending on manual trans, auto trans, auto trans with tow pkg, and auto trans with max tow pkg.

Thanks in advance-

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[ShadowsPapa]

I am searching high and low and can’t seem to find these ratings. The owner’s manual references:
TRAILER TOWING WEIGHTS (MAXIMUM TRAILER WEIGHT RATINGS)
Note:
For trailer towing information (maximum trailer weight ratings) refer to the following website addresses:

• www.jeep.com
• jeep.ca (Canada)

To locate your vehicle towing specs:

1. Select the vehicles drop down to select your vehicle
2. Select model
3. Select year
4. Select specs

But there’s no further specs on tow ratings except the basic 4000lb tow limit for manual trans.

It just haint there, as far as I can tell. I have seen tables of ratings depending on model and equipment for earlier models (like 2020), but can’t find it for a 2024 with automatic trans, and tow package (not max tow). Previous years had four different ratings for the Sport S depending on manual trans, auto trans, auto trans with tow pkg, and auto trans with max tow pkg.

Thanks in advance-

Have you read your owners manual? Get the PDF version, search for the word "tongue" and there's a great chart and more!

450 with NO tow package, 600 with the standard tow package, 765 IF you have the MAX TOW package listed on your window sticker or build sheet (which you can get for free on the internet)
So if there's no factory receiver, and no tow package on the window sticker or build sheet, you have a limit of 450.
If you have the typical tow package, it's 600
If you have MAX TOW - it's 765

TW - is TONGUE WEIGHT in the book that comes with your Jeep, or that you can download. Your SALES PERSON should have pointed all of this out..........

This is right straight out of the owners manual (the internet is full of crap because it's all marketing stuff, dealer postings and mostly based on sales tactics, only believe the book)

 

[gonemad]

Thanks for that info. The paper owner’s manual points me to Jeep.com, which instructs me to look under the year model and specs. Didn’t find it there, so followed the owner’s manual link at the bottom of the jeep page and that’s where that blurb came from posted above. The pdf version wouldn’t download for me, but I was able to view the owner manual on-line.

Just to satisfy my curiosity, I’d love to know which page in the manual that table is located on. I had seen an identical table for a 2020 that was actual posted in a 2-3 year old thread here, but could not locate it in the current 2024 manual.

 

[gonemad]

This is the 2024 Gladiator Owner’s Manual. That table doesn’t appear anywhere I can see. (at least where I think it should be on page 155 or thereabouts.) It could be that old eyeballs are at work.

https://vehicleinfo.mopar.com/asset...1*18fa5a9*_gcl_au*OTM0NjE4NzIxLjE3MzIyMjQyMjM.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I have a 2022 Gladiator - the PDF version I pulled that from is page 200.
I'd have to go grab my paper copy the truck came with to see what page it's on in a paper version of the book.
The problem is that they keep making changes, some very simple, which tend to shift page numbers around.

 

[gonemad]

I have a 2022 Gladiator - the PDF version I pulled that from is page 200.
I'd have to go grab my paper copy the truck came with to see what page it's on in a paper version of the book.
The problem is that they keep making changes, some very simple, which tend to shift page numbers around.

I honestly think they failed to put it in the 2024 manual. But thanks for those specs. I don’t imagine there is a change from your ’22 to my ’24 specs. To get the full paper manual it looks like I can roll with the downloaded pdf, or order hardcopy from Mopar for $50.

I’m used to paying $150 for factory service manuals for my new Harleys, but it’s the first time I’ve seen a charge for an owner’s manual.

 

[AirborneSilva]

Every max tongue weight I've ever seen is always 10% of max tow weight.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Every max tongue weight I've ever seen is always 10% of max tow weight.

That should be the general rule with standard hitches and so on.
Frankly, I'd never even consider 765 pounds of tongue weight on one of these. Not even close.
I had max tow springs under the back of my JT and with 525 pounds of tongue weight (measured on a scale) it sagged pretty good. I can't imagine another 250 pounds back there! ouch.
There's also often two ratings - my Silverado had one maximum tongue weight with a standard hitch and another with a WDH setup.
Jeep doesn't seem to differentiate.

All of the online versions I found of the owners manual did not include the towing chart. But the downloadable PDF I got by signing into my MOPAR web account does have the chart.
Maybe there's a difference?? Or maybe in 2024 they got cheap?

 

[Sandman 4x4]

I am searching high and low and can’t seem to find these ratings. The owner’s manual references:
TRAILER TOWING WEIGHTS (MAXIMUM TRAILER WEIGHT RATINGS)
Note:
For trailer towing information (maximum trailer weight ratings) refer to the following website addresses:

• www.jeep.com
• jeep.ca (Canada)

To locate your vehicle towing specs:

1. Select the vehicles drop down to select your vehicle
2. Select model
3. Select year
4. Select specs

But there’s no further specs on tow ratings except the basic 4000lb tow limit for manual trans.

It just haint there, as far as I can tell. I have seen tables of ratings depending on model and equipment for earlier models (like 2020), but can’t find it for a 2024 with automatic trans, and tow package (not max tow). Previous years had four different ratings for the Sport S depending on manual trans, auto trans, auto trans with tow pkg, and auto trans with max tow pkg.

Thanks in advance-

There’s no set amount of tongue weight. Because of the variables. Normally it depends how heavy your trailer is to maintain control, too much or too little will effectively cause handling and ride issues. The amount needs to be in the 10-15% of trailer weight. So a 5,000lbs trailer should have 500-750 lbs tongue weight. On my 2024 Sport S the payload capacity is only 1,044 lbs in my door jamb. So that 500 only leaves 544 lbs for every thing else, including the weight distribution hitch that usually are at least 100 lbs. so forget 17% or 750 lbs that leaves only 294 lbs for every thing. Then there’s what is called CGVWR combined gross vehicle weight rating, that the manufacturer takes everything into consideration, trailer and vehicle ready to go as it added up. I don’t know how much a Gladiator Sport S is. Good luck.

 

[gonemad]

This was would be for a hitch receiver mounted motorcycle rack, so I wouldn’t be trailering.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

There’s no set amount of tongue weight. Because of the variables. Normally it depends how heavy your trailer is to maintain control, too much or too little will effectively cause handling and ride issues. The amount needs to be in the 10-15% of trailer weight. So a 5,000lbs trailer should have 500-750 lbs tongue weight. On my 2024 Sport S the payload capacity is only 1,044 lbs in my door jamb. So that 500 only leaves 544 lbs for every thing else, including the weight distribution hitch that usually are at least 100 lbs. so forget 17% or 750 lbs that leaves only 294 lbs for every thing. Then there’s what is called CGVWR combined gross vehicle weight rating, that the manufacturer takes everything into consideration, trailer and vehicle ready to go as it added up. I don’t know how much a Gladiator Sport S is. Good luck.

He's asking about maximum, and yes, there is a limit for that.
What your actual is will indeed vary, but is typically 10% of trailer weight, give or take. That's well-discussed here and every RV site and FB group in the world.

Maximum on the standard tow package is 600.
Yes, that is take from payload - also a given in the book and elsewhere. The payload varies, so you won't know what the payload for any given Gladiator, or any truck, for that matter, is. Payload numbers will vary with options and so on, based on vehicle's final weight from the factory.

This was would be for a hitch receiver mounted motorcycle rack, so I wouldn’t be trailering.

That's going to be a lot of weight, up high, not sure I'd do it unless it was a really light bike.
Once you get say 400 pounds back there, and much of it up high, you raise the truck's center of gravity, making it more prone to sway and funky steering issues. Frankly, I'd put a motorcycle in the bed, not on a rack, but that's me - safety, handling in our hills and curvy roads and so on. Maybe even an inexpensive motorcycle trailer............

 

[bgott]

I have a 2022 Gladiator - the PDF version I pulled that from is page 200.
I'd have to go grab my paper copy the truck came with to see what page it's on in a paper version of the book.
The problem is that they keep making changes, some very simple, which tend to shift page numbers around.

My owner's manual for my 2023 Sport S Willys w/tow package doesn't have a separate listing for the weight rating. It just lists 4500# for a Sport S automatic. I bought it after reading that it was rated for 6000#, probably from you posting the page in your owner's manual for 2022. Not blaming you, Jeep is one fucked up company as far as sharing information. So, I use Uhaul specs. I rented a tow dolly and when the guy was filling out the rental agreement he asked me the year, 2023, make, Jeep, model, Gladiator, and the computer automatically imputed 7000# for tow weight rating. Being that Uhaul is a major corporation that deals with this stuff all day long, I can't see their computers having the wrong info, can you?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My owner's manual for my 2023 Sport S Willys w/tow package doesn't have a separate listing for the weight rating. It just lists 4500# for a Sport S automatic. I bought it after reading that it was rated for 6000#, probably from you posting the page in your owner's manual for 2022. Not blaming you, Jeep is one fucked up company as far as sharing information. So, I use Uhaul specs. I rented a tow dolly and when the guy was filling out the rental agreement he asked me the year, 2023, make, Jeep, model, Gladiator, and the computer automatically imputed 7000# for tow weight rating. Being that Uhaul is a major corporation that deals with this stuff all day long, I can't see their computers having the wrong info, can you?

uhaul - what a hoot.
The chart is still correct, 2020 or 2022 or 2023. Doesn't matter.
7,000 is totally WRONG for a Sport, Sport S, overland with the standard tow package.
If you use uhaul specs, you're trusting a company that said I couldn't pull one of their trailers with my Silverado.
If you have a Sport S automatic with the standard tow package, then 6,000 is the limit - uhaul is full of crap.
That 4500 is for the Sport S auto without the factory tow package.
There are three ratings for the Sport S -
no tow package,
with tow package,
with MAX TOW.
Uhaul is one fucked up company for their numbers.

 

[bgott]

I was being facetious… my point is that I would prefer it to be in writing somewhere in their literature that a 2023 Sport S with the tow package is rated at 6000 pounds.

 

[gonemad]

I was being facetious… my point is that I would prefer it to be in writing somewhere in their literature that a 2023 Sport S with the tow package is rated at 6000 pounds.

...and in the 2024 manual as well, cause it hain’t there.

For those of you who are more familiar, did any other major specifications change between 2022 and 2024? Because if they didn’t, I would role with the published 2022 specs that @ShadowsPapa posted, but that’s just me.

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