Changing tranny oil for first time

[WILDHOBO]

Juniper makes danged nice switches that work fantastic as core switches in an enterprise. Their programming is such that if you know a Juniper router, you know a Juniper switch or other device.

Oh, wait - ATF............

Yet that’s the same with Cisco. Switches, routers, firewalls, and it goes on. Many if not most vendors wrote their cli based on Cisco’s.

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[WILDHOBO]

Yet that’s the same with Cisco. Switches, routers, firewalls, and it goes on. Many if not most vendors wrote their cli based on Cisco’s.

Crap. I meant ATF, obviously.

 

[Hootbro]

So forget the science. Tell me why you want to use anything else. Anything else. Why switch? Even if many people get away with it. Why is it BETTER to mix the tranny fluid?

You are framing the argument of "better" that I am not putting out. I am just stating what I have used and what can be used.

As to the "why"? That is internal to me as anything I state will just open up another debate that my original posting to this thread is not about.

 

[WILDHOBO]

You are framing the argument of "better" that I am not putting out. I am just stating what I have used and what can be used.

As to the "why"? That is internal to me as anything I state will just open up another debate that my original posting to this thread is not about.

I didn’t claim you said it was better. I just want to know why switch, UNLESS it’s better than mopar atf 8/9.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I’m sure I’ve made it clear what I’m fishing for. I want someone to either say they switched brands because it’s better, or cheaper. Because cheaper is not a reason to switch, unless it’s ALSO better.

 

[Hootbro]

I didn’t claim you said it was better. I just want to know why switch, UNLESS it’s better than mopar atf 8/9.

Back to the OP's original post, probably no reason to switch cost wise.

That being said, for all we know he is comfortable with the brand and product influencing his decision.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Back to the OP's original post, probably no reason to switch cost wise.

That being said, for all we know he is comfortable with the brand and product influencing his decision.

It the ops original post was related to whether or not to switch fluid. Is my question of whether a change decision would be solely influenced by cost not valid somehow?

 

[Stan H]

Completely agree. Here’s the argument I have yet to hear. No one has said why those other fluid options are supposedly better than mopar atf 8/9 fluid. The only reason to switch is to save money on fluid. Dumb in my opinion. It’s like going to an aftermarket blood bank for a transfusion. Not worth even the potential cost.

For my thinking , it can cause you problems and then again you may not have trouble . But if you do have trouble now your in trouble cause ya used the wrong fluid.
I guess if money is no object ya just run whatever ya want and when it comes apart ... Ya buy another transmission.
But yes agree

 

[Stan H]

It the ops original post was related to whether or not to switch fluid. Is my question of whether a change decision would be solely influenced by cost not valid somehow?

It has to be a profound mistake to switch fluid to a "cheaper" fluid in a transmission that is NOT having problems. Bad juju.

 

[MT1]

Do not do that. Super risky. Not telling you what to do with your vehicle, but be aware. Flushing these transmissions often dislodges things and grenades them. The recommendation from everyone knowledgeable is a pan drop and add fluid to get back to full. That means you’re only changing roughly 6 of the 9 quarts. If you mix different fluids that don’t play well together, you’ll kill your tranny. Not on day one, but soonish. Check other threads. There are real examples of this happening to people on this forum, with amsoil. It’s not the same type of fluid. Just stay with mopar and don’t crater your drivetrain.

Solid advice.

 

[JTGuy]

I am not changing my "lifetime" ATF. I figure the trans will fail before the ATF does. But, I will only put in it what the factory uses because there is nothing worse than mixing oil types. Why not just buy a quart of each one and do a real mix, get the best of all of them...LOL.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Brand, marketing, brand perception, perception based on others loving something - not a great reason, IMO.
I can point to the comparison between 2 "big names" and 2 cheaper brands in oils.
Guess what......... yeah, the cheaper stuff either did just as well or even surpassed the stuff double the price with a fancy brand or color. (the $4 oil did better than the fancy brand $10 oil)
And these days, perception coming from internet is making things worse.

It's also a fact that what one company may excel at for a specific product for a specific use, they don't do nearly as well for another product for another part of the car/truck.
One may do great engine oil but their hypoid lube or ATF is not in the top.
Brand loyal isn't always a good thing.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Oh, wait - ATF............

Uh, and not Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms...........

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