392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[ShadowsPapa]

Our old YJ flexed pretty damn good for being SPRUNG UNDER leaf springs…..We had ford shock towers, and 1” body lift to help with ’stuff’

I’ve seen many guys with Tacoma solid axle swaps that ran sprung over …and those things flexed like crazy!!!

Bet it wasn't because of the axle being under or over the springs as much as which springs or if there were spacers involved. The forces are the same whether the rear of the axle is pulling down or the front of it pulling up, all else being equal. It will depend a lot on the spring pack and how it's built. But if you take a single leaf.............

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[RubiNewbCB]

Michigan is supposedly the biggest weed market in the US.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/ma...-cannabis-market-by-sales-volume/74059181007/

Thanks to White Boy Rick. Yes, The teen phenom that the FBI used and the imprisoned, who later got a movie about his misadventures.

 

[Janster]

Bet it wasn't because of the axle being under or over the springs as much as which springs or if there were spacers involved. The forces are the same whether the rear of the axle is pulling down or the front of it pulling up, all else being equal. It will depend a lot on the spring pack and how it's built. But if you take a single leaf.............

When you’re sprung UNDER…. You need a good sized lift to get what you need to fit 33’s/35’s. We had Rubicon Express 4.5” leaf springs.

When you’re sprung OVER - you get about 5” of lift with your stock leaf springs.
Guys used to stock up on freebie take-off springs and beat the crap out of the stock springs on the rocks and never spend a penny on leaf springs.

We sold our stock leaf springs to a guy from Philly. He was doing a spring OVER conversion on his YJ. However… he started talking about low riders.
I’m like…. What??? He was gonna install the leafs upside down
Too bad I didn’t know this guy, cuz I would’ve loved to see how that was all setup when he was done.

 

[PuddleJumper]

One reason I, and perhaps others, bought, was because it WAS Wrangler-based.
If it's going to be based on anything else, such as the 2500 - then what the hell - it's just a big-ass truck with a Jeep name on it. It loses personality and becomes more like GM pickup vs. a Chevrolet pickup. Why bother?

Does FCA really need another 2500-type truck?

literally just buy a power wagon for cheaper than whatever they offer lol

 

[ShadowsPapa]

When you’re sprung UNDER…. You need a good sized lift to get what you need to fit 33’s/35’s. We had Rubicon Express 4.5” leaf springs.

When you’re sprung OVER - you get about 5” of lift with your stock leaf springs.

I know - it's how we've done lifts on other vehicles, and - I'm pretty experienced in suspension, over, under, torque links and other stuff.

VERSUS -

I guess I don't have other pics of the link system on my 73's leaf springs............just the above where I was making things fit, machining the parts

 

[ShadowsPapa]

literally just buy a power wagon for cheaper than whatever they offer lol

I'm done with bulky big fat full-sized trucks that take an acre to turn around.
Sorry to the PW fans, but I can turn my Jeep around in a fraction of the space - with the snow plow o it. If Jeep takes these away, it will be another truck capable of the same things, and no bigger than the JT.

 

[PuddleJumper]

I'm done with bulky big fat full-sized trucks that take an acre to turn around.
Sorry to the PW fans, but I can turn my Jeep around in a fraction of the space - with the snow plow o it. If Jeep takes these away, it will be another truck capable of the same things, and no bigger than the JT.

The JT is the last new truck platform i plan on buying. If i ever need another truck I'm gonna get an OBS ford. My buddies bronco has stood the test of time and always did what was needed. All I need is a 460, ZF5, Dana 60 front, Sterling 10.5 rear, 8ft bed, single cab bench seat.

 

[Hootbro]

Bottom line is it says that Max Tow was effectively the same physical equipment year over year but the rating increased. Take that for what you will.

This might be a weird analogy for some, but it is like computer hard drive makers and capacity. It does not behoove of them to put out the highest capacity they can make but piecemeal out over time as the market dictates.

All the truck makers have reserve rating they have tested too. IIRC, the 50 pound bump was because new 2024 Chevy Colorado coming online had 7700 pound rating and took the feather out of the cap of the Gladiator.

 

[Stan H]

This might be a weird analogy for some, but it is like computer hard drive makers and capacity. It does not behoove of them to put out the highest capacity they can make but piecemeal out over time as the market dictates.

All the truck makers have reserve rating they have tested too. IIRC, the 50 pound bump was because new 2024 Chevy Colorado coming online had 7700 pound rating and took the feather out of the cap of the Gladiator.

I dint believe that 7700 at all for those rust bucket Chevy colorados . My cousin bought a brand new ine and in 3 yrs. The frame broke from rust . They are simply inferior .

 

[BourbonRunner]

All the truck makers have reserve rating they have tested too. IIRC, the 50 pound bump was because new 2024 Chevy Colorado coming online had 7700 pound rating and took the feather out of the cap of the Gladiator.

QFT.

They most certainly do not release them at 9/10. They have to hold something back in case the competition catches up.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

but it is like computer hard drive makers and capacity. It does not behoove of them to put out the highest capacity they can make but piecemeal out over time as the market dictates.

I'm not sure about that. Here's why -
In the 1980s, I was building and selling computers for a guy who ran a company doing custom programing and selling computer systems to run them, including some of the very first pay at the pump type of software, software for Wall Street types and so on.
Then i the 90s, I was designing and building the computers used by then Compressor Controls Corp to be the interface for their Series IV turbo-compressor control equipment for sale to Gazprom.
In the process, I worked directly with tech companies, including a Korean maker of computer system boards, drive companies and such.
What I learned is that it was a VERY cut-throat business.
One guy said their number one issue was mental health - that the part most often taken advantage of in their benefits packages was treatment for stress and so on.
They also said that the first one out the door with a product wins - biggest, fastest, most capacity, you own the market for a while. You always had the next fastest or biggest system or drive in the works and tried to release it before the other guy - if they released their bigger or faster first, then for that while, they had the market.
So they held nothing back at all. It was total stress - places like I worked for were always begging for bigger drives for our servers, or faster memory or system boards, better, faster video, you name it.

I can't see where any tech company held back - corporations always needed MORE storage space. Even where I worked, we were always needing more, the current was never enough. That's why drive arrays, drive racks, servers with several drives - always trying to keep up with needed space. I doubt any drive company only sold it out a bit at a time.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

QFT.

They most certainly do not release them at 9/10. They have to hold something back in case the competition catches up.

Competition will always catch up. When you release yours, they are already working on better. And you should already be working on your next release. Theirs will out-do the best you can do with your current.

 

[MPMB]

The Red Queen defense. The more everyone advances, the more everyone stays in the same place.

 

[MPMB]

The JT is the last new truck platform i plan on buying. If i ever need another truck I'm gonna get an OBS ford. My buddies bronco has stood the test of time and always did what was needed. All I need is a 460, ZF5, Dana 60 front, Sterling 10.5 rear, 8ft bed, single cab bench seat.

I'm almost in the same boat. I did see a '72 sububurban that had a newer crate engine in it. $20k. Very, very tempting.

I would rather dump $30k-$40k on a Chevelle instead of a new car that shuts down if some electrical gremlin crops up.

 

[Stan H]

Competition will always catch up. When you release yours, they are already working on better. And you should already be working on your next release. Theirs will out-do the best you can do with your current.

Unless your current in your niche of the market is already the best option. Viva La Jeep !!!!

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