2026 Jeep JT Hybrid

[Splenda]

Forgive me if I didnt check and its been answered. But is the Hybrid Powertrain going to be better over the 3.6 powertrain? And if it is, what is the risk as this is a new powertrain first gen so maybe issues or doesnt matter as the 3.6 still has issues? Though I thought most things were fixed by 2023 model years....etc.

I guess question is should I switch my 3.6L for the Hybrid. - I plan to keep this Jeep Truck till I die, not saying I wont buy new ones, but I like this model and want this to be my cool fun truck that I keep for 50 plus years....etc.

It just depends on whether or not you trust the 2.0L engine in the 4Xe more than the 3.6L.

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[ShadowsPapa]

It just depends on whether or not you trust the 2.0L engine in the 4Xe more than the 3.6L.

The 2.0 is also in the JL without 4xe. It appears to be fairly reliable. I don't see many complaints about it out there.

 

[Zachanadandy]

It just depends on whether or not you trust the 2.0L engine in the 4Xe more than the 3.6L.

If they are going with the zf hybrid transmission, they could use the 3.6L in the new 4xe just as easily as the 2.0t. I wouldn't assume that we will see the 2.0t in the gladiator.

 

[Splenda]

If they are going with the zf hybrid transmission, they could use the 3.6L in the new 4xe just as easily as the 2.0t. I wouldn't assume that we will see the 2.0t in the gladiator.

Have they said that they are going to create an entirely new 4Xe drivetrain for the JT?

 

[Zachanadandy]

Have they said that they are going to create an entirely new 4Xe drivetrain for the JT?

No, but if the new zf transmission really is significantly more powerful and more efficient than the current setup they'd be retarded but to use it? At that point it doesn't matter which engine goes in front of it. They never said they were going to put the 2.0t in the JT either. They said electrification and some form of hybrid. There was speculation even before the zf transmission that they were holding off on the 4xe JT because they didn't want the 2.0t in it and were looking in to a 3.6L 4xe variant.

 

[Splenda]

No, but if the new zf transmission really is significantly more powerful and more efficient than the current setup they'd be retarded but to use it? At that point it doesn't matter which engine goes in front of it.

What makes the new transmission so "powerful"? How much power does the new transmission generate in addition to the engine's horsepower?

Edit - I see that the 8HP80PH has the electric motor built into it.

 

[Zachanadandy]

What makes the new transmission so "powerful"? How much power does the new transmission generate in addition to the engine's horsepower?

215 hp according to zf. I think the 4xe is 100hp (I know is 150ftlbs). I believe the zf is 300 ftlbs.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If they are going with the zf hybrid transmission, they could use the 3.6L in the new 4xe just as easily as the 2.0t. I wouldn't assume that we will see the 2.0t in the gladiator.

That's what I was hoping. a 3.6 based 4xe. You'd lose nothing, gain a lot.

 

[Hootbro]

At 30 years of service a retired officer will get 81% of his final salary. The average police chief salary in the bay area is $200k/year. Unless he's drawing 3 pensions he's not making $400k (Google is a hell of a resource and the reason I'm so open about our wages. I know some think it's taboo, but anyone can go to unionpayscales.com and see wages, benefits, etc for anywhere in the country)

Depends on the police department but a lot of the larger metro police departments will calculate retirement using a "Final Average Salary" calculation that takes the last 3-5 years of their highest average earnings to also include overtime pay into their calculations. While $200K maybe a base salary, can be exponentially higher at retirement when OT is factored in.

California Public Sector Unions are pretty well known for their "Cadillac" retirements

 

[biodiesel]

Have they said that they are going to create an entirely new 4Xe drivetrain for the JT?

The plan was that Jeep would be releasing the 2025 Gladiator 4Xe with a powertrain upgrade. The ZF 8HP80PH would replace the current 8HP75PH. Obviously, Jeep changed their minds and delayed the Gladiator 4Xe. In recent weeks, there have been inside leaks saying the Wrangler will get the upgrade, but the Gladiator 4Xe is getting canceled or delayed.

 

[JTdiRtyD]

I haven't ever needed and don't carry extra fuel in the Jeeps and they get roadtripped all over the west and wheeled hard. The rubicon trail is all of 18 miles. The idea that you need 500 miles of range for an EV is absurd. Traveling across the desert there are times where we are fueling up our Jeeps that only have a 240 mile range every 180 miles because the next fuel station is 50 miles away. I've yet to see 1 example of a trail where an EV Jeep with a 400 mile street range would struggle even if you lose 40% of that rock crawling. It's just not a real concern in my opinion and experience. Even the mojave road (which isn't technical so your be closer to street range) is only 100 miles and has chargers near both ends.

https://www.motortrend.com/features...ive-review-trans-america-trail-off-road-ver-2

Motortrend took a Rivian across the Trans American Trail and had zero issues with charging, and this was before EV chargers were literally everywhere.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Depends on the police department but a lot of the larger metro police departments will calculate retirement using a "Final Average Salary" calculation that takes the last 3-5 years of their highest average earnings to also include overtime pay into their calculations.

That's how our IPERS was figured. Then it's a fraction of that. and of course you had to have the rule of 88. Nice, but not going to make you wealthy. Not easy to live off just the state retirement.

 

[Cansberry]

The problem is there IS no real off road EV available. They are all independent front and rear suspension on air bags. The only way they have the ground clearance to try and go off road is to inflate the bags all the way making for 0 downtravel, a harsh ride, and putting all the joints at a near bind at the worst possible time when it's going to see the harshest terrain and highest loads. That is why the 4xe is the best selling wrangler, it's the only off road option with any EV capabilities.

Agreed. Curious to see the next gen of Wrangler, the hypothetical Ineos EV, and the Scout. That'll give some teeth to the EV 4x4 space.

 

[RudeJeepin]

3/8" + .625 = ?

Well with math equations like that...what do you expect.

Now if you meant 3/8" + .625" = ?
How about .375" + 5/8" = ?

 

[RudeJeepin]

Agreed. Curious to see the next gen of Wrangler, the hypothetical Ineos EV, and the Scout. That'll give some teeth to the EV 4x4 space.

I watched The Long Way Up where they pull charged a preproduction Rivian pickup. Kinda got excited and thought it would make a possible rig to tow behind an RV. They dropped the flat tow all together on the production version.
The new Slate seems interesting, but we'll see how much it changes once it's in full production.

Put that new electric transmission behind my 3.0L EcoDiesel. Or give me electric propulsion with a small diesel generator to extend the range.

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