(Ram Dakota) midsize pickup truck to be built in Toledo in 2028!

[Stan H]

By far the worst seats I've ever sat in. Road trips were terrible. And the TRD Sport was supposed to have the best ones. The Gladiator seats blow them away.

As much as I think Gladiator seats could use some help I was forced to drive a Yota for work for 2.5 yrs. I WILL NEVER buy a piece of junk like that in my life. It was a company vehicle.

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[Chasm]

Since the Gladiator is somewhat of a mid-sized pickup to most people, I don't see both the Gladiator and the new truck living side-by-side.

Isn't that what the Gladiator is supposed to do?

After testing the competition, I would bet that they realized the JT doesn't really compete in the same market and they want to make the Dakota more car-like to match the "competition".

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The main buyers in the midsize truck market want an IFS truck with a comfortable, quiet cab, and all the bells and whistles.

I'm definitely not a "main buyer in the midsize truck market" as I found the cabin to be comfortable and as quiet as necessary.
I bought the JT because I need a pickup and wanted a Wrangler but could not afford to have both.
The JT gave me both in one garage stall, for one insurance payment and one annual license fee.
If the JT is dropped as it exists, then this one will be kept forever. I do not want yet another fat truck and am not really impressed with the other small trucks - maybe if Ford turns the Bronco into a small truck and the JT disappears, I could go that direction.
But I bought the JT because it's a Jeep, a Wrangler and a pickup, all in one.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I agree. Until we sees Gladiators used as work truck with extension ladder, mower etc. The Gladiator still just a toy and a life style truck for most.

We did see one today, believe it or not. I did a double-take. It was headed west on I80 as we were headed east to Iowa City this AM.
Passed another with a different sort of rack on it I didn't get a chance to really see, and of course, a JT behind a large motor home.

 

[Stan H]

We did see one today, believe it or not. I did a double-take. It was headed west on I80 as we were headed east to Iowa City this AM.
Passed another with a different sort of rack on it I didn't get a chance to really see, and of course, a JT behind a large motor home.

My first vehicle where trucks 68'Chevy3/4, 72'Chevy,79 Ford1/2,74FordHighboy3/4 ....see my pattern. I cant hardly do without a pickup. Its just part of who I am got to have that space back there . Of course I owned several more pickups beside those in that list . Those were my early ones. Me I like camping , hunting nothing says your in Huge trouble than a deer crumpled up in the back of a Wrangler , or a small Rick of Firewood in the back of a Wrangler. The bed just opens so many options . Hauling my Generator, wood, deer etc...

 

[LowOnCash]

Looks like an over-priced version of a Honda Ridgeline or Rivion sissy truck that will most likely cost close to a $100k. That's not a truck - this is a real truck - Mike

 

[JmattNYC]

Guess the us being the black sheep comment got deleted smh

 

[Mr Miami]

Looks like an over-priced version of a Honda Ridgeline or Rivion sissy truck that will most likely cost close to a $100k. That's not a truck - this is a real truck - Mike

Be interesting to see that on the Rubicon trail.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I have a VSS from a Dakota in my car to handle the PCM signals for vehicle road speed - does that mean I have a Jeep and a Dakota?

 

[biodiesel]

As mentioned earlier in this thread, Jeep will continue building/selling the Gladiator into the next generation and Ram will release a midsize truck to compete with the Canyon, Colorado, Ranger, and Tacoma.

Neither one of them need to make a lot of sales to be profitable. The Gladiator shares much of the same technology, body, and interior as the Wrangler. The Dakota will share the same platform as the Gladiator, so that will help save money.

Jeep and Ram want to stay relevant in a demanding and changing market. The only way to stay relevant is to continue building the brand, improving on reliability, and giving consumes something to look forward to. This means better powertrains, more capability, refinement, and improved quality.

The Gladiator doesn't directly compete with the Dakota and vice versa. The Gladiator is a rugged utilitarian vehicle for those who embrace that lifestyle, image, and want that capability. The Dakota will be a refined truck with better on-road comfort.

Both will be fantastic trucks and offer consumers a lot of choice. In the end, both are Stellantis brands. Stellantis doesn't care if you buy a Ram or a Jeep, they just want you to buy a Stellantis midsize truck!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The Dakota will share the same platform as the Gladiator, so that will help save money.

Will it? Or will it be more like the South American cousin?

To share the same platform means it, too, will be Wrangler-based.

 

[biodiesel]

Will it? Or will it be more like the South American cousin?

It's been confirmed that the Dakota will share a platform with the Gladiator. There will be some adaptations, but both will be built in the same Toledo Assembly plant in Ohio.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

It's been confirmed that the Dakota will share a platform with the Gladiator. There will be some adaptations, but both will be built in the same Toledo Assembly plant in Ohio.

It has not been confirmed it shares a platform with the Gladiator.

You can make wildly disparate vehicles on the same lines with ease.

Many people, including so called journalists who should have critical thinking skills, leapt to that conclusion, but nowhere has that been stated by Stellantis.

 

[biodiesel]

It has not been confirmed it shares a platform with the Gladiator.

I thought Antonio Filosa said it would share the same body-on-frame as the Gladiator with adaptations. I believe TFL received the same information from their Stellantis insider. They said the Gladiator will remain a SFA while the Dakota will have an IFS. I remember Filosa saying that it would speed the manufacturing if both the Gladiator and Dakota were built on a similar body-on-frame.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I thought Antonio Filosa said it would share the same body-on-frame as the Gladiator with adaptations. I believe TFL received the same information from their Stellantis insider. They said the Gladiator will remain a SFA while the Dakota will have an IFS. I remember Filosa saying that it would speed the manufacturing if both the Gladiator and Dakota were built on a similar body-on-frame.

Body on frame doesn't mean same platform, though. If it did, then the JT is the same platform as a Ram 2500.
Speed manufacturing - in what way? Body on frame is slower and more expensive. (ask the former AMC people)
I'd rather see a Comanche-like truck.

Hard to imagine they'd put together yet another version of the Ram or Dakota aside from what already exists elsewhere. It would be easier to take the existing small truck and modify it for the US market.

One of these makes more sense to me -
https://www.ram.com.ar/

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