This makes me think of B-29 Stratofortress engines that were turbo on top of supercharged (I think they were, if not they only had turbos), and had an exhaust gas turbine on the crankshaft itself. Or as I was told at a museum, "they built a jet engine, but forgot to take the pistons out".
These are wheel dyno graphs from the 1st gen 2.0t in a wrangler with bolt ons and a JB4 piggyback controller turning up the boost. That hp in a newly strengthened design is nothing. These wheel numbers are 400+hp and ~550ftlbs at the crank. More torque than the 392 or the diesel... from a 2.0t.
Im wondering about reliabilty.These are wheel dyno graphs from the 1st gen 2.0t in a wrangler with bolt ons and a JB4 piggyback controller turning up the boost. That hp in a newly strengthened design is nothing. These wheel numbers are 400+hp and ~550ftlbs at the crank. More torque than the 392 or the diesel... from a 2.0t.
We had the 2.0t in our 2019 JLUR and it felt like it had significantly more power than the 3.6L stock. Wheeling at 10k+ feet it was night and day. It was also less affected by larger tires, lift, etc than the 3.6L feels. Unfortunately when it was stolen in 2022 there was still a major inventory shortage and we didn't want to wait for an order as the wife dailies the JL so we ended up with the 3.6L with the xr package. I don't hate the 3.6L and in low range they work pretty equally well. On road, especially at freeway speed and/or elevation I miss that little turbo motor. For the JT I'd much rather have a 5.7L hemi, but the 3.6L is the most mediocre engine in the Jeep lineup.
YES PLEASE to the 5 7 hemi
Perhaps it is more a function of the heat when towing. The base Gladiator only weighs about 500 lbs. more than the JKU give or take a couple hundred pounds based on features and options. But the Gladiator in its base form does tow 1,000 lbs. more (4,500 vs. 3,500 lbs).
I made that same decision. Last thing I want in the middle of the Mojave desert is a turbo or hydrid system SNAFU. Just wanted a boring 6cyl.I had the Ford 2.0 eco-boom in an all wheel drive, tow rated Escape.
Power, hp
200-252 hp (149-188 kW)/ 5,500
Torque, lb ft
221-270 lb-ft (300-366 Nm)/ 1,750-4,500
The protections they have to put on small engines, unnaturally aspirated, created problems.
Towing a trailer with half of the maximum load, the computer would go into "Engine Save Mod", deactivating the turbo, and then left with a lil 2.0 with retarded tuning.
Not fun.
Wanted a medium sized pick up, naturally aspirated, and selected a Gladiator.
No such issues, and love it!
GMTA
Yea, the Gladiator has prohibitive engine packaging compared to the other midsize trucks. Small engine bay probably holds more heat, and the small nose limits how large your cooling stack can be.
These are wheel dyno graphs from the 1st gen 2.0t in a wrangler with bolt ons and a JB4 piggyback controller turning up the boost. That hp in a newly strengthened design is nothing. These wheel numbers are 400+hp and ~550ftlbs at the crank. More torque than the 392 or the diesel... from a 2.0t.
Meh.
Pretty much every diesel out there has a turbo and the same guys who love diesels are scared of gas turbos. It makes 0 sense.
Which really means you want an electric motor... but most won't ever admit it. Peak torque from 0 to about 9000 rpms. Even if they went the route of the magneto concepts and simply replaced the gas engines with an electric motor it would be the best Jeep ever built in any situation off road. Massive torque at even the slowest crawl? Wheel speed for mud? Smooth power delivery for loose hill climbs?
