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What does your Jeep get? My Mojave doesn't average anywhere near 280 unless all freeway. If I am on trails it's FAR lower than 250.Ugh. 250 miles of range? Is there a spot for an on-board generator? Ugh.
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What does your Jeep get? My Mojave doesn't average anywhere near 280 unless all freeway. If I am on trails it's FAR lower than 250.Ugh. 250 miles of range? Is there a spot for an on-board generator? Ugh.
This is absolute nonsense. In 20 years it'll likely be at 85% original range. Someone will pull out some anecdote " I saw where a battery failed in 1 year!" and ignore the thousands of 10 year old Teslas with 250k miles on them and 90% original range. It's like " OMG a Pentastar exploded!!! ICE doesn't work!!!!!1 "they are ticking timebombs for a 20k battery swap after 5 years.
It's always those with the least experience that share completely inaccurate information that fits their preconceived ideas. No i don't think they are saving the planet, but to try and pretend they are worse than the millions of ice vehicles is foolish. To argue efficiency while being an ICE fan shows a complete lack of understanding of energy use. Our Jeeps need 700kWh to match the range of the recon on 100kWh battery. It's far from the most efficient EV but shits all over any ICE vehicle in that regard. An ICE engine literally burns more fuel creating heat than it does creating motion. Put a solid state 700kWh battery in the recon and it will weigh about the same as the 100kWh battery and have a 1,750 mile range. Unfortunately the solid state batteries aren't ready for market but it's coming. Not that I think they'll actually put packs that big in vehicles because it would make more sense to put a similar capacity battery that weighs 1/10th as much and therefore increases the range by 50-100 miles just by weight reduction. We will probably see 200kWh solid state packs and 500+ mile ranges but I doubt they'll go much bigger.This is absolute nonsense. In 20 years it'll likely be at 85% original range. Someone will pull out some anecdote " I saw where a battery failed in 1 year!" and ignore the thousands of 10 year old Teslas with 250k miles on them and 90% original range. It's like " OMG a Pentastar exploded!!! ICE doesn't work!!!!!1 "
Thanks for the education. Looks like these charging stations make EV wheeling do-ableIf only there were chargers in town...
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Show me the 100 mile trail in moab. Why would you need to wheel for 2 days instead of charging it in between trails? Those pesky facts again.
This is a good point. The range of the Recon and Gladiator is almost the same.What does your Jeep get? My Mojave doesn't average anywhere near 280 unless all freeway. If I am on trails it's FAR lower than 250.
True. but out of sight=out of mindWell, what gets me with all these EV's is the conditions that the people who mine these lithium materials etc. Exist in ..its the next thing to squalor and the conditions of the mines etc are horrendously unsafe and unhealthy.
What happened to Jeep saying that EV battery technology had to come way up before getting back into the EV thing.
Seems like a lot of double talk. EV mandates are done ,toast ..
IMHO a silly offering to Jeep enthusiast. Even if it has off-road type capabilities it won't be able to hang
I can't agree on the looks, but I like your plan!I really like the look of these, but god that price is crazy. I can’t wait to get one of these for $40K or less in a year or two when they aren’t selling at all.
But it doesn't look like THAT, and I can refill it in 2 minutes.You paid at least that for half the horsepower...
Here comes another comment that's going to bunch up some panties with some people here:Oh yeah, great in a straight line, or a single quarter mile run, but let's hot lap it and see what happens. I wonder why none are doing bracket racing? Oh what? The battery is hot and you can't make another pass? Oh so sowwy. Not gappin' no one with a hot battery
My Gladiator range is about 380, give or take. Is there sand in your tank?This is a good point. The range of the Recon and Gladiator is almost the same.
Ouch! It's down near $2 around me.Where I live the least expensive
gas is $4.39/gal.
20 milesTrue. but out of sight=out of mind
Seems like a lot of companies are out to destroy their own branding. I wonder what it's range drops to with the doors off or in the mud.
What are your 1/4 ET and MPH in the Challenger?Here comes another comment that's going to bunch up some panties with some people here:
People always bench race their Teslas, but my real world experience is that my Challenger spanks the shit out of them regularly. (Haven't come across a Plaid yet). People forget about factors other than horsepower. Weight and traction being primary.
Electric cars increase range with "low rolling resistance" tires. AKA: No traction. They prevent tire spin with computer limiting.
This Recon has 650 horse, but it's over 3 tons.
That's a similar power to weight ratio of my 1965 family sedan.