OEM Remote Start add-on?

[Stan H]

There is no 30 mph to turn on the air bag system. Turn the ignition on, car not moving, they can work. You don't need to get up to 30 in order for air bags to work.

• Airbags are activated (able to inflate if necessary) only when the ignition switch is turned to the ON or START position.

• Accessory Mode: If you turn the key to "ACC" (accessory) or "ON," the airbag system is armed and can deploy, even without the engine running.
• Momentary Power: After the engine is turned off, the system retains power for a few minutes (or longer), allowing for deployment if a crash occurs shortly after stopping.

From IIHS:


Newer airbags have a safety belt sensor and use an algorithm to decide whether to deploy the bag in a given crash, depending on whether people are using safety belts.

For unbelted occupants, a front airbag will typically deploy when the crash is the equivalent of an impact into a rigid wall at 10-12 mph. For belted occupants, most airbags will deploy at a higher threshold — about 16 mph — because the belts alone are likely to provide adequate protection up to these moderate speeds.

I totally believe you, it's the other guy & 30mph deal I totally know is not right .

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[Stan H]

@Gvsukids, I seen ya chuckled , I don't know near as much about the intricate processes of these vehicles like @ShadowsPapa . He is a great source here. But I know one thing ,Jeep wouldn't want that guy boasting about code like that. Especially when it's bad..
I am an Former LEO and that statement He made alone is investigation worthy . And possibly Court worthy. So I say with a Name like Webduelist He is either not telling the truth or not smart enough to hold his tongue.

 

[webduelist]

I totally believe you, it's the other guy & 30mph deal I totally know is not right .

You can believe whatever you want, but at the start of this thread, OEM remote start was not available for JT, you couldn't even add the sales code. (still fighting on the Auto Headlights Sales code....) and now you can add the sales code. I know literally everything there is to know about the remote start system, the oem manufacturer, the difference in firmware versions, the FCC filings, what the remote start antenna actually is, and how it connects to the board in the RF Hub.

I am litterally a data engineer by trade, my job is to legally break into and pen test computer systems, including that big old android radio on everyones dash.

 

[webduelist]

Be careful, there's a lot of guys here who want to lynch Jeep programmers and such for some of the illogical crap inside some of these modules, like the ambient temp not updating until you hit 35 mph and for some - it ain't gonna happen.

Want to see the logs showing the air bags don't "arm" until 30 mph because it would be totally against all industry norms and here's some real-world examples of why air bags arm at ignition on - not some magical mph number:
You are shopping, get in, start up, pull out of a parking spot in downtown and the speed limit is 25 - due to traffic, not cops, you can't even make that for 3 blocks.. You stop, your light turns green, you advance and from out of nowhere an idiot coming out of a curved side street smacks you doing 25-30 mph. (in my S-I-L's case, it flipped her Blazer)
In the jeep, the air bags don't go off because of some 30 mph arm thing - Jeep gets sued.
You pull out of the hospital ramp in Iowa City, turn onto Melrose - traffic is heavy, there's a school zone, you might hit 25 if lucky, WHAM, someone makes a left turn into you. Air bags won't go off because of some stupid Jeep thing - but they would for ANY OTHER vehicle (fact!) so Jeep gets sued.
Air bags are supposed to arm at ignition on. They are not triggered by speed, but by deceleration or acceleration with sensors.
If you have to reach 30 mph to arm an air bag system in a Jeep, jeep needs their asses sued because any other vehicle on the market arms at ignition on.
Air bags can deploy when you are sitting still, having never reached 30 mph after startup, depending of course on the forces, impact, deceleration or acceleration caused by the impact.
You don't have to reach any minimum speed to "arm" them, not with anything else on the market.

It makes zero sense to have anything triggered by speed - and I sure hope you weren't the one who wrote that because if I find that it's a fact Jeep is violating air bag industry norms, I'll add that to the list of things to go after them over.
Their programmers and executives are total idiots, the people building them in Toledo are fine.

Sorry I actually went back through my notes, the Airbags arm between 8 - 16 mph, but the RFHUB, BCM, and ECM do a full resync at 30MPH. This is also the way spare keys are re-synced, along with a ton of other configuration changes.

 

[JeepNightHawk]

Sorry I actually went back through my notes, the Airbags arm between 8 - 16 mph, but the RFHUB, BCM, and ECM do a full resync at 30MPH. This is also the way spare keys are re-synced, along with a ton of other configuration changes.

Ok everything webduelist says has been 100% correct . I had a remote start key cut and programmed at the dealer. What are the jscan settings to activate ? Thanks

 

[Stan H]

Ok everything webduelist says has been 100% correct . I had a remote start key cut and programmed at the dealer. What are the jscan settings to activate ? Thanks

I dont have an RF Hub .

 

[JeepNightHawk]

Not sure if webduelist is still around but this guy is 100% spot on with everything. I installed proximity door handles, auto matic headlights , and now factory remote start. People in the fourms were commenting that certain things couldn't be done. Wedduelist is a genius when it comes to this. Got a factory jeep key made at the dealer . The parts guy at jeep told me this wouldn't work . Webduelist stated , " i promise you this works" . Turned on jscan , activated remote start , saved the setting , drove around my subdivision, went over 40 mph , gave the jeep like 15 mins of run time, went back home , shut it off , press the auto start button twice, and BAM . It started . So easy. Can't guarantee that it's this simple with all Jeeps but presumably with 2024s and 2025s.

 

[History-Teach863]

Not sure if webduelist is still around but this guy is 100% spot on with everything. I installed proximity door handles, auto matic headlights , and now factory remote start. People in the fourms were commenting that certain things couldn't be done. Wedduelist is a genius when it comes to this. Got a factory jeep key made at the dealer . The parts guy at jeep told me this wouldn't work . Webduelist stated , " i promise you this works" . Turned on jscan , activated remote start , saved the setting , drove around my subdivision, went over 40 mph , gave the jeep like 15 mins of run time, went back home , shut it off , press the auto start button twice, and BAM . It started . So easy. Can't guarantee that it's this simple with all Jeeps but presumably with 2024s and 2025s.

What was the part number for the key? Was it 68416784AD ? Thanks!

 

[JeepNightHawk]

What was the part number for the key? Was it 68416784AD ? Thanks!

Just checked my photos . No receipt photo. Not sure .

 

[Gvsukids]

What was the part number for the key? Was it 68416784AD ? Thanks!

@AllMoparParts.com might know.

 

[AllMoparParts.com]

@AllMoparParts.com might know.

Uhh what exactly are we looking for? Sorry its been a long week and it's only Tuesday lol

- Benny

 

[History-Teach863]

@AllMoparParts.com might know.

Found the correct one.

 

[webduelist]

Not sure if webduelist is still around but this guy is 100% spot on with everything. I installed proximity door handles, auto matic headlights , and now factory remote start. People in the fourms were commenting that certain things couldn't be done. Wedduelist is a genius when it comes to this. Got a factory jeep key made at the dealer . The parts guy at jeep told me this wouldn't work . Webduelist stated , " i promise you this works" . Turned on jscan , activated remote start , saved the setting , drove around my subdivision, went over 40 mph , gave the jeep like 15 mins of run time, went back home , shut it off , press the auto start button twice, and BAM . It started . So easy. Can't guarantee that it's this simple with all Jeeps but presumably with 2024s and 2025s.

Ya I am still "around" I just don't feel like arguing with people so I took a break from these forums.

 

[dayusmc]

Reading this post makes me laugh, this was all figured out long ago. James, James07 or something like that is actually the Guru when it comes to the Jeep electronics. He walked me through this a few years back. The reason it “appears” to work after you drive the car is because the modules have time to initiate again (I actually forget the exact wording James used), but all you have to do after you turn on the remote start in JScan is restart all the moduals. I did it and it worked fine. People are to impatient…
But these post just keep popping up year after year, arguing about things that were solved many years ago and posted. I am not the best at using and finding stuff with the search feature, but it is all here already figured out. New people join this forum and think they have figured out how to turn rocks into diamonds, but the truth is is has all been done before. In fact the people on the board that have figured everything out have left and do not come on anymore. Most likely from dealing with this very situation.
James07 or James whatever his screen-name was is the man when it comes to Jeep wiring and computer stuff. I wish he was still posting, I would come on here more often just to read his posts. I think he even did a write up on adding the different modules and wiring for the RF antenna.

 

[Gvsukids]

Ya I am still "around" I just don't feel like arguing with people so I took a break from these forums.

Isn't that what your forum name means?

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