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Hey all! I wanted to share some intel on the one of many ways to get a great deal on a car. I’ve been buy cars for years and there is definitely a skill to build on how to deal with the dealership. By no means is this the only way to get a deal, just what works for me.

First off do your research and know what others are getting on price. I use auto trader, cars.com, and Kelly Blue Book to see what the market is like. If I’m trading in a car, I look up how much a similar car like mine is being offered, and I use those same websites to determine what’s a good selling price that both the dealership and I are happy.

First off when I drive into the lot, it’s good to have a nice car that catches their attention. This shows the dealership that you like to buy nice cars, and more importantly you can afford it. (If you don’t have a cool car, barrow a friends car, rent one lol whatever you have to do. It shows you mean business). Don’t go directly to the salesman, make them come to you. If they don’t, go to a different dealership. You don’t want to look desperate and remember first impressions mean everything.

I like to go with a friend so there’s a “good guy, and bad guy”. We use code words so the seller doesn’t know if your truly in love with the car. When you show emotion, you are less likely to get a deal.

Always say to the seller that you kinda like it, but wish it had blank. A good example is let’s say you want an automatic on the Jeep, but you know they don’t have any Manuel transmissions you say “I wish it was a Manuel”. Even though your intentions are to get an automatic, you are letting the seller know they have to work for the sale. Get it?

Finally when negotiating I like to walk in with an envelope. Dealerships hate to see your educated. I ask the nice sales man if I can speak to the manager to negotiate, this takes the whole back and forth away and I can look them in the eye. I let them know I’m here to buy today, and I give them a price based on what’s fair. My offer is alway below invoice and I determine what this is based on the research I’ve done. They will ask how are you paying, say your not sure, they will ask if your doing a trade in, say no. All they are doing at this point is see if they can lower the selling price so they can make money off you elsewhere. After you agree on price and shake hands, then you tell them cash, or hopefully your pre quailed with another Leander but If your not, let them run your credit and close the deal. You say you changed your mind on the trade in if you have one, and see what they can offer.

I recommend going in the last day of the month if you can as this is when they get desperate to hit their goals and are more willing to close with you. Last car I bought, I showed up 2 hours before they closed on the last day of the month. I spoke directly with the sales manager, told him I want it for this price, he said ok, and I was out of there with a deal that other dealerships told me would never happen.

Sorry if this is long, and I do hope I was helpful. If you have any further questions let me know because I’m full of answers.
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Great write up but I've found a better way - Call Kent at Petersen's Stampede CDJR in Nampa, ID. Save a ton, way below invoice, when you order one the way you want. Spend little time at the dealership, sign and drive away.
 

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Yeah @calicorks , those are all good tactics if you don't know what @Sorbs said above. None of this stuff really applies to buying a Jeep because the people in the know go to just a handful of dealers around the country where you can get absolute bottom pricing for exactly what you want and not an on-the-lot car.
 

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I did very similar for my Pilot a few years back. Waited until 4:15pm on Friday, February 29th and walked into the dealer I intended to buy from. Had offers from other dealers, and new from online pricing what others had paid. They gave me some BS $500 below MSRP offer, I countered with $1000 lower than any price I had seen online from Edmunds, TruCar, Navy Federal, etc. They laughed and I told him to take it to his manager, and if we were not signing paper work by 5:00pm, I was out the door to the other dealer I had an offer from. He came back $250 higher than my offer, and I ended up getting the car for about $750 less than I expected.

Unfortunately this method doesn't really work with the Gladiator as not enough inventory around the dealerships, and not a single dealer in the country will have ever the exact options I want. I did the same initial strategy though for my order, I emailed 14 dealers around the state, plus ID and Iowa over the course of two months. Most in state were egregious. Found a couple who were at or slightly below invoice. Told them the deals I could get (without naming dealers) and none would budge. Waited to May 31st, reached out to all 14 dealers again, and not surprising, more dealers had flexibility. I countered all of their offers with a price I had been offered out of state and one agreed to match the price. After taxes, fees, options, etc. my out the door price is still below invoice and the dealer is only 30 minutes from work.
 

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I have always had good luck with going to look for what I want when the dealer is closed and then go back the next day to see a salesman. I absolutely will not hang around to negotiate with them, I already know what I'm willing to pay and will have my wife or someone else call me while there after I send her a quick text which is only to create a reason to give the salesman that I need to leave right then. Before leaving I tell them what I'm willing to pay (need to research and be fair with offer) and write a check for 10% of that amount as a down payment. I put the ball in their court by letting them know I'm serious and will only come back if its to buy it at that price, otherwise they can shred the check which they absolutely do not want to do. It has consistently worked for me every time if I'm reasonable with my offer and it keeps me out of the in person negotiations that they know work in their favor if they can keep you in the door.
 

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Yeah @calicorks , those are all good tactics if you don't know what @Sorbs said above. None of this stuff really applies to buying a Jeep because the people in the know go to just a handful of dealers around the country where you can get absolute bottom pricing for exactly what you want and not an on-the-lot car.
Yep!

One of the best reasons to join a forum like this is to find out where to get inside deals. For the folks not on a forum like this there are plenty of dealers who will happily take their money, as much money as a shopper's impatience and impulse buying allows.

As noted above, there are folks that will drive a hard bargain and get a dealer to bend to their will too. I'm just done with all that and happy to know where to go to get a good deal.
 
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I live in Las Vegas and none of those dealerships are accessible to me. Plus not everyone is buying a Jeep and this applies to the broad market. Just trying to be helpful.

Do you all know of one of those dealerships your referring too that isn’t too far from me?
 

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In the past i simply locate the vehicle i want at several dealerships and email and OTD offer. If they bite they bite. Going a different route on the gladiator.
 

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I live in Las Vegas and none of those dealerships are accessible to me. Plus not everyone is buying a Jeep and this applies to the broad market. Just trying to be helpful.

Do you all know of one of those dealerships your referring too that isn’t too far from me?

I live in CA and ordered from North Caroline. Why do you need the dealer to be close to you?
 

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I live in Las Vegas and none of those dealerships are accessible to me. Plus not everyone is buying a Jeep and this applies to the broad market. Just trying to be helpful.

Do you all know of one of those dealerships your referring too that isn’t too far from me?
I'm in SoCal and will be driving through Vegas on the way back from picking mine up in ID. If you aren't willing to drive more than 10 minutes to a dealer your options are limited and you are going to be stuck haggling/negotiating. You have to run the numbers if it makes sense or not (including time wasted haggling with a dealer). A few hours of driving to save a lot makes sense to many of us.

Because to fly there to drive it home , or have it delivered cost $$.
For my LE, I'm around $7k under MSRP (which every SoCal dealer is charging). That's a lot of plane tickets.
 
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I'm in SoCal and will be driving through Vegas on the way back from picking mine up in ID. If you aren't willing to drive more than 10 minutes to a dealer your options are limited and you are going to be stuck haggling/negotiating. You have to run the numbers if it makes sense or not (including time wasted haggling with a dealer). A few hours of driving to save a lot makes sense to many of us.


For my LE, I'm around $7k under MSRP (which every SoCal dealer is charging). That's a lot of plane tickets.

ID is 10 hours from me, not 10 minutes. I’d be willing to drive, but that’s a long time.
 

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It's nice to have a dealer quote you 4 or 5% below invoice, but when you live 1000 miles away and have a trade in the game changes. I got 1% below invoice locally and made up the rest of the discount on my trade. I was also able to negotiate the money factor on my lease.
 

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ID is 10 hours from me, not 10 minutes. I’d be willing to drive, but that’s a long time.
I'm obviously getting mine shipped to me. I don't know the cost yet, but I've had about 10 vehicles shipped over the years and it's never cost me more than $1000 to do that. Well worth it.
 
 







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