Turn off overdrive

[Chinman]

Went to haul a sxs and trailer today and just realized there is no way to turn off overdrive, ie haul mode. I have a sport s with tow pkg. not max tow. It pulled fine but I thought it was odd

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[Kent5]

Because the automatic isn't like those of years gone by, where just the top gear was overdrive -- in our JT transmissions, both 7th and 8th gears are overdrives.

If you want no overdrive (1:1) in a JT, you need to manually shift down to 6th.

(in my older cars, "tow/haul" just kept the torque converter from locking, but I don't know if there were also some cars that T/H mode locked out the overdrive gears as well)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My 95 F250 changed shift pattern and set the turn signal to 5 flashes instead of 3.
My 2011 Silverado 1500 changed the shift pattern, gave engine braking when it downshifted, and set the turn signal to 5 flashes instead of 3.
Both had a button to handle towing mode.

That last bit is the part I miss with the JT. 3 flashes just doesn't cut it when you need to change lanes with a big trailer. There's a reason all other trucks I've known - and those I've owned - changed the number of flashes.
Apparently Jeep engineers never towed in traffic. There's a reason almost every other brand changes the flash number.
So with the JT I have to manually hold the signal to get more than 3 flashes.

 

[Alan_Hepburn]

So with the JT I have to manually hold the signal to get more than 3 flashes.

I just push the stalk and it will keep flashing until I cancel it - isn't that the way it's supposed to work?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I just push the stalk and it will keep flashing until I cancel it - isn't that the way it's supposed to work?

Naw, they haven't done that in 30 years. It's been tough the lever and let go for that long.
Clicking it is for when you are sitting at a stop light for 2 minutes.
Changing lanes or taking an exit, you just bump the lever and let go.
I bet you are thinking of your 86 YJ perhaps

 

[Renegade]

Naw, they haven't done that in 30 years. It's been tough the lever and let go for that long.
Clicking it is for when you are sitting at a stop light for 2 minutes.
Changing lanes or taking an exit, you just bump the lever and let go.
I bet you are thinking of your 86 YJ perhaps

I bet he doesn’t have an “86” YJ...

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I bet he doesn’t have an “86” YJ...

Oops, typo - it was introduced in 86 so MODEL YEAR has to be later.
Yup - 87 through mid 90s.

 

[Alan_Hepburn]

Naw, they haven't done that in 30 years. It's been tough the lever and let go for that long.
Clicking it is for when you are sitting at a stop light for 2 minutes.
Changing lanes or taking an exit, you just bump the lever and let go.
I bet you are thinking of your 86 YJ perhaps

We've had a few vehicles with the "lane change" signal mechanism - but I never felt 3 blinks was ever enough to let others know my intentions; I've always turned the signal full on and left it on until the lane change is complete. By the way: our YJ was an '88 - we sold it in 2000 when my wife had her first knee operation and could no longer operate the clutch...

What I would like to see is the system that my Honda Goldwing has: the turn signals automatically cancel after a specific time and distance. For lane changes I flip the signal on and after the set time and distance it cancels; if we're sitting at a light it remains blinking until we actually make the turn. They've had that since at least the GL1500 series - 1988-2000...

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We've had a few vehicles with the "lane change" signal mechanism - but I never felt 3 blinks was ever enough to let others know my intentions;

I agree, that's why I think that Jeep should change the number of flashes when in trailer tow mode - 3 isn't enough as it is, and it's even more worthless when towing.
People just don't pay that much attention, they'd miss 3.

 

[Artsifrtsi]

Naw, they haven't done that in 30 years. It's been tough the lever and let go for that long.
Clicking it is for when you are sitting at a stop light for 2 minutes.
Changing lanes or taking an exit, you just bump the lever and let go.
I bet you are thinking of your 86 YJ perhaps

My ‘05 TJ doesn’t do that either. You need to click it or hold it to get more than 1 flash...

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My ‘05 TJ doesn’t do that either. You need to click it or hold it to get more than 1 flash...

Yeah, Jeep is way behind on that stuff...... Ford had it in the mid-90s, and it changed the flash number with trailer towing. My 95 was well equipped for towing. Push the button on end of the gear shift lever and it was a different truck in shifting, turn signals, etc.
I'm surprised because Jeep is marketing these things are capable tow and payload trucks, even "best in class" that for those things it's worst in class.
These are TRUCKS. They are marketing the TOWING ability, the PAYLOAD numbers and yet - it hasn't got the features of trucks of the 1990s in those respects.
It shines in a lot of other areas, but something so VERY simple - if you detect a signal on the trailer connector - modify the turn signals and/or other features.
Alas, they don't have a brake controller either, so I guess it's no surprise they weren't really ready for towing in other areas.

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