Employee Pricing 2

[FLGladiator]

With the increase in fuel prices and the coming new round of shortages coupled with the increased interest rates. Does Covid pricing 2 seem reasonable or not this time?

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[Gvsukids]

With the increase in fuel prices and the coming new round of shortages coupled with the increased interest rates. Does Covid pricing 2 seem reasonable or not this time?

So are you asking if vehicles will be overpriced again?

 

[FLGladiator]

So are you asking if vehicles will be overpriced again?

No, I am asking if people think the vehicles will have the covid pricing again. If you bought in early or mid 2020, the pricing discounts were insane. Most people were able to get 5 to 7k below msrp. I was considering making a trade these last couple weeks, but with the current situation I am thinking to hold off. Most 22s are still in transit.

 

[FLGladiator]

Censored. lol This forum is worse than twitter in censorship, not sure why I use it.

 

[Pedal Metal]

I‘m no economist, but I’ve stayed relative current with the broader strokes of the auto industry for years and from my point of view I don’t expect pre-Covid discounts for a long while. Just consider that we went into Covid with a relatively strong economy and a relatively flush market basket of goods. In fact, I remember a time not too much prior to Covid when the talking head analyst talked about how all the auto manufacturers were having to heavily discount autos because the market was over supplied and they were having to lure futures buyers into the market with severe product discounts of current models.

However, once March, 2000, hit, companies across ALL SECTORS and industries saw huge disruptions of how things had ever been in our recent past. People were fearful of the air, doorknobs, and not to mention being laid off. Companies like ford were terrified and reacted with creative offers such as contract clauses that if you lost your job you could return your car because they no doubt had bloated inventory levels AND NEEDED TO MAKE SALES!

However, car lots and manufacturers are nowhere near having bloated inventory levels Today! Now, with the dollar’s shrinking buying power, due to prior inflation, continued fuel pricing feared increases, and what have you for the other fears that some have; I can’t help but think there is a chance that gladiators may see some tiny rebates in a near term to help move inventory if things continue to flow unobstructed in our economy With rising prices. However, the flip side is that things could get worse, and we may just see some more price increases.

Either way, I’m putting my money where my mouth is and trying to guard against what I think is the greater risk. I put in an order on 3/15 for a Gobi Mojave. Why? Well, I have an exit clause on my contract which is loosely worded, so I could easily walk if say the economy crashes and the deal doesn’t make sense when it arrives here. However, if the sky is still in the sky when it gets here, I’m locked in against future price increases and I have an in-bound unit in a market that may see even more raw material constrictions for goods such as cotton and rare earth materials. Consider the following write up from Barron’s and then ask yourself if it is more likely than not that prices will go up than down knowing what you think you know now:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/fr...chains-are-still-taking-a-beating-51646090656

Best of luck with your decision.

 

[Gvsukids]

Censored. lol This forum is worse than twitter in censorship, not sure why I use it.

Probably decluttering.

 

[ZoMojave]

It's not worth overthinking it in my opinion. I ordered my new Mojave on 2/14 and took delivery a week ago yesterday. I knew going in that in today's automotive world, nothing is certain but historically the Jeep Gladiator/Wrangler models hold their value quite well. I also know that life is short. I say go for it and enjoy. And by the way, I was able to negotiate $4,500 off the MSRP. I am a happy camper.

 

[ZoMojave]

I forgot to mention that I received 4K more than I paid for the trade that I owned for 2.5 years. Label it anyway you want but I call it a pretty decent time to buy. And according to my dealer resources, price increases ARE happening in the coming weeks. And it is not related to microchip shortages. It is the build materials in general that are driving up the costs.

 

[FLGladiator]

It's not worth overthinking it in my opinion. I ordered my new Mojave on 2/14 and took delivery a week ago yesterday. I knew going in that in today's automotive world, nothing is certain but historically the Jeep Gladiator/Wrangler models hold their value quite well. I also know that life is short. I say go for it and enjoy. And by the way, I was able to negotiate $4,500 off the MSRP. I am a happy camper.

Great deal anyway. I am waiting for the in transit vehicles to show up so I can find some better selections. Very happy with my max tow, but at such a low cost smart to upgrade to a newer year.

 

[Pedal Metal]

I forgot to mention that I received 4K more than I paid for the trade that I owned for 2.5 years. Label it anyway you want but I call it a pretty decent time to buy. And according to my dealer resources, price increases ARE happening in the coming weeks. And it is not related to microchip shortages. It is the build materials in general that are driving up the costs.

Interesting. Could they give you any color on how much of an increase is speculated?

 

[Rahkmalla]

Great deal anyway. I am waiting for the in transit vehicles to show up so I can find some better selections. Very happy with my max tow, but at such a low cost smart to upgrade to a newer year.

No better selection than a retail order. Also the easiest way to get a deal

Also friendly reminder: the difference between an S maxtow with convenience, 8.4, and tech package is only 4k less than a Rubicon with hardtop and auto. You gain a lot there for 4k while only losing 650 towing lbs.

 

[FLGladiator]

No better selection than a retail order. Also the easiest way to get a deal

Also friendly reminder: the difference between an S maxtow with convenience, 8.4, and tech package is only 4k less than a Rubicon with hardtop and auto. You gain a lot there for 4k while only losing 650 towing lbs.

Retail order no good for me, already spoke with Gupton. Problem is Florida state, you need a trade to get a sales tax credit. So it has to be a dealer with a unit in stock. We'll see how things go. I actually really like the max tow. In fact if the deal isn't really right, i'll just pass and still be happy.

 

[dcmdon]

I‘m no economist, but I’ve stayed relative current with the broader strokes of the auto industry for years and from my point of view I don’t expect pre-Covid discounts for a long while. Just consider that we went into Covid with a relatively strong economy and a relatively flush market basket of goods. In fact, I remember a time not too much prior to Covid when the talking head analyst talked about how all the auto manufacturers were having to heavily discount autos because the market was over supplied and they were having to lure futures buyers into the market with severe product discounts of current models.

However, once March, 2000, hit, companies across ALL SECTORS and industries saw huge disruptions of how things had ever been in our recent past. People were fearful of the air, doorknobs, and not to mention being laid off. Companies like ford were terrified and reacted with creative offers such as contract clauses that if you lost your job you could return your car because they no doubt had bloated inventory levels AND NEEDED TO MAKE SALES!

However, car lots and manufacturers are nowhere near having bloated inventory levels Today! Now, with the dollar’s shrinking buying power, due to prior inflation, continued fuel pricing feared increases, and what have you for the other fears that some have; I can’t help but think there is a chance that gladiators may see some tiny rebates in a near term to help move inventory if things continue to flow unobstructed in our economy With rising prices. However, the flip side is that things could get worse, and we may just see some more price increases.

Either way, I’m putting my money where my mouth is and trying to guard against what I think is the greater risk. I put in an order on 3/15 for a Gobi Mojave. Why? Well, I have an exit clause on my contract which is loosely worded, so I could easily walk if say the economy crashes and the deal doesn’t make sense when it arrives here. However, if the sky is still in the sky when it gets here, I’m locked in against future price increases and I have an in-bound unit in a market that may see even more raw material constrictions for goods such as cotton and rare earth materials. Consider the following write up from Barron’s and then ask yourself if it is more likely than not that prices will go up than down knowing what you think you know now:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/fr...chains-are-still-taking-a-beating-51646090656

Best of luck with your decision.

I actually majored in economics. ha. And the only thing that is going to bring down prices is a full on recession.

I thought that was a possibility until I saw recent employment numbers. The strongest in like 10 years. You've got multiple items pushing in different directions.

I can also speak first hand when it came to the Covid discounts. they were very brief, but they were deep.

I was looking at a BMW M2. I had been following one at a dealer and in the first week of April the dealer discounted it from 65k to 57k. Everyone thought purchasing would stop.

But less than a month into the lockdown people began to realize that Covid was going to have more of an impact on supply than it was on demand. In a service economy the people who can afford to buy 60k cars can often work from home. Or they are self employed in which case they will find a way to get things done.

In the mean time Government was busy shutting down ports and factories. Within a few days of me finding that car at its discounted price, it sold.

A month later prices were higher than before covid. So while there was initial discounting, it was a panic reaction and reversed itself within a month when dealers realized that supply was going to take an even larger hit.

 

[Rahkmalla]

Retail order no good for me, already spoke with Gupton. Problem is Florida state, you need a trade to get a sales tax credit. So it has to be a dealer with a unit in stock. We'll see how things go. I actually really like the max tow. In fact if the deal isn't really right, i'll just pass and still be happy.

What did one have to do with the other? What's stopping you from trading your truck in against a retail order? Worried the price will change dramatically from the day you place the order to when a new one arrives?

Also worth mentioning: right now places like carvana and co are offering much higher trade values than most dealers. If you can just get 6% more for your trade, why would trade in tax savings matter?

I sold my car to a KBB instant cash value toyota dealer that was offering me 20% more than my jeep dealer. Sure i missed the tax savings, but would you rather get 6% or 20%? Cause it all adds up.

 

[Panthers65]

everything you listed will chip away at the current high prices, but I don't think we'll see those insane discounts like we did before. That was an initial, knee-jerk reaction by the auto industry and it eventually evened out. Props if you took advantage. The interest rate is going up, but not at an extraordinary rate. Making money more expensive will slow down the buying frenzy for both homes and vehicles, but it's going to be done slowly. COVID discounts at the beginning were practically immediate. The gas prices are annoying everyone, but in all honesty if you drive a substantial amount you've either factored that in, or your weren't' buying a gladiator in the first place. I work in business communications and it's clear offices and what-not are going to open back up, but we'll never see the office workforce that we did pre-covid, there are just too many businesses advantages and benefits to working from home.

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