STOLEN from my driveway this morning! New Jeeps are crazy easy to steal apparently...

[am1978]

Wow this thread has gone every way that anyone can imagine ! How is the recovery of your truck going ? Any leads yet ?

I asked that earlier. The OP must be busy. This is out-paging the Last Jeep I’ll Ever Own thread today.

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[joeym7]

Well, I think we beat this "do or not to do more" debate to the ground. To each his own!!!!

As some are asking, lets get back to solutions and get of the X of trying to convince other not to take more action - that is an individual choice (and no reason for folks to continue to try to push their POV). And I think most here are looking to make our beloved G'ers more hardened.

That is why I am here anyway.

 

[Burghardphotography]

Not exactly sure how this forum works, but is there a way for mods to lock threads for going way off topic? This thread has run its course, we all need to move on here.

 

[joeym7]

The day after I picked up my Gladiator I added hood locks. Mainly to keep my batteries and LED lights safe….and now the jeep itself.

My last Wrangler (TJ) had “The Plug” installed. Now that Iloved!!!! Good luck stealing the Jeep with that. Properly installed it is AWESOME! I have put it on my other cars over the years as it is not some stupid alarm piece. You could leave the keys on the seat without the doors on the car and without the matching unique plug pin the car still will not go as the plug is required to complete the electrical circuits within the car for starting.

They have held contests to see if someone could steal the vehicle with the plug and nope. You have to spend hours tracing all the wires in the engine bay as it is camouflaged etc. Sure they could tow away your JEep but easier to move on.

Most thieves do not even know what the Plug is so have it installed somewhere reachable but somewhat obscure. Even if they figure out the obscure gray plug is involved and cut the wire right at the plug it does not do a bypass letting them steal it.

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That so sucks they took it.

If you are still in this thread, does the factory alarm still work while the plug is out? (I like that thing!)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Let’s not forget that the FBI counts more than cars & trucks as vehicles.

A motor vehicle is defined in the UCR Program as a self-propelled vehicle that runs on land surfaces and not on rails. Examples of motor vehicles include sport utility vehicles, automobiles, trucks, buses, motorcycles, motor scooters, all-terrain vehicles, and snowmobiles. Motor vehicle theft does not include farm equipment, bulldozers, airplanes, construction equipment, or watercraft such as motorboats, sailboats, houseboats, or jet skis.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/motor-vehicle-theft

For 2019, there were 616,754 total vehicle thefts collected.

• 9.2% were motorcycles, ATVs, snowmobiles, and scooters
• 16.2% were trucks or buses
• 74.4% were cars (assuming they include SUVs here)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-19

hot-dam I forgot all about that. So of that total number of vehicle thefts, we can only count not quite even 3/4 of that whole number because they were ATVs, scooters, buses, snowmobiles (or if you live in AK - snow machines) LOL. That cuts the number even more, and if the Jeeps are down the list in that now smaller number, it means even fewer Jeeps were actually stolen.
Wow, that 616,754 looks really bad (unless you consider 1.7 million, from 30 years ago, of course)
But that 616,754 gets a heck of a lot smaller when you consider CARS and SUVS were only 458,864 of that number.
Yeah, SUVs are actually generally considered "station wagons", except for my Gladiator which is actually a legal truck as defined by the feds, by our state and by Jeep itself)
Grand Cherokee is a car - it's a station wagon. Jeep never called it an SUV, at least not up to the year 2000 - dunno for sure past that year, but Jeep never referred to it as SUV, the SUV haters called it that.
Anything that isn't a truck is a car - station wagon, SUV, whatever, in most locales, it's a car.

Now let's get fun here - in 1980, an obscure little company came up a vehicle that hadn't to that point been built in the USA. It ended up being a seller so hot they ran 3 shifts and still couldn't keep up with demand. The feds were like -what the heck is that thing? Is it a car? what do with do with this for CAFE, emissions, 5 mph bumper regs and so on........ they were baffled. They'd never seen anything like it. SUV wasn't a buzz word yet - it's either a car or a truck (and technically, still is today - two choices)

Well, they gave up and decided it's 4 wheel drive, it must be a truck.

So, if this is stolen, will the FBI consider it a truck in their stats?

 

[am1978]

Not exactly sure how this forum works, but is there a way for mods to lock threads for going way off topic? This thread has run its course, we all need to move on here.

Many, many threads do this. Go check this one out….a.k.a. The Last Jeep I’ll Ever Own…..it got renamed to O.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/o.49175/

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Maybe I missed it - but do we know any other details - exactly how this one theft happened? The methods used, the scenario?
The pic in post one shows a top back. So even if closed, there's a simple way in.
Do we know how it was locked? Inside lock button, fob, etc.?
If it was locked properly, even with a top someone could get open, or if it was left open, when the Vehicle Security Alarm is armed, the interior power door lock switches will not unlock the doors.

We have no details on this one - or for that matter, ANY thefts, other than "this is how it can be done"

So, maybe we need more information before we can say what happened or how, if it was low tech, high tech, mistake, etc.

We are assuming..............

 

[am1978]

Maybe I missed it - but do we know any other details - exactly how this one theft happened? The methods used, the scenario?
The pic in post one shows a top back. So even if closed, there's a simple way in.
Do we know how it was locked? Inside lock button, fob, etc.?
If it was locked properly, even with a top someone could get open, or if it was left open, when the Vehicle Security Alarm is armed, the interior power door lock switches will not unlock the doors.

We have no details on this one - or for that matter, ANY thefts, other than "this is how it can be done"

So, maybe we need more information before we can say what happened or how, if it was low tech, high tech, mistake, etc.

We are assuming..............

…and we all know what assuming does….LOL.

 

[abe57]

ShadowsPapa said: Maybe I missed it - but do we know any other details - exactly how this one theft happened? The methods used, the scenario?
The pic in post one shows a top back. So even if closed, there's a simple way in.
Do we know how it was locked? Inside lock button, fob, etc.?
If it was locked properly, even with a top someone could get open, or if it was left open, when the Vehicle Security Alarm is armed, the interior power door lock switches will not unlock the doors.

We have no details on this one - or for that matter, ANY thefts, other than "this is how it can be done"

So, maybe we need more information before we can say what happened or how, if it was low tech, high tech, mistake, etc.

We are assuming..............


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Page #2 Thread # 29 .... Yeah, on the footage that I have the thief has an iPad/tablet in his hands and never even touches the doors. He goes near the jeep with the iPad then places it on the ground. He then goes under the front of the jeep on the passenger side tire and then he opens the hood with a partner. They do something near the battery side, probably in the fuse box. The lights flicker, they close the hood, jump in the Jeep, start it and drive away... Me : To much BS and everyone forgot the main topic !!

 

[am1978]

I’m thinking they put one of those devices up under the JT somewhere that recorded the last code used like the one in the “Wired” article I posted earlier.

 

[Geoarch]

This thing installed has not effected any other system in you Jeep? Do have it in a gladiator?

How much did installation cost? I see that the unit cost $700.00

 

[Geoarch]

I wish that were a thing here... Our government is trying to ban the sale of hand guns completely and eventually any gun I imagine. Even though we don't have the right to carry in Canada and there are extreme rules around gun licensing...

A weapon works if you're there when someone is trying to steal it, otherwise it's of no use.

 

[Geoarch]

Well, I guess I have another thing to buy for the Jeep

About the only thing I liked better on my Tacoma was a hood latch from inside the cab. Jeep could at least to that, but I guess the outside hood latches would have to go.

 

[joeym7]

About the only thing I liked better on my Tacoma was a hood latch from inside the cab. Jeep could at least to that, but I guess the outside hood latches would have to go.

It is a no-brainer and Jeep should do this for both a security enhancement and a safety enhancement (save the clichés folks we heard them already 100X lol). They can keep the outside hood latches one really has nothing to do with the other...They still have a secondary function, and many folks like the look. I like them, but if I had to choose I'd give them up for locking hood.

 

[am1978]

They can keep the outside hood latches one really has nothing to do with the other...It still has a secondary function, and many folks like the look. I like them, but if I had to choose I'd give them up for locking hood.

I hate the hood locks on the market that integrate with the grill because I have a front camera. No good for me.

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