$1,350 battery replacement?

[JonMN]

Looking through the battery threads, I wonder if those that experienced early failure had a dealer that let them discharge too low before purchase? Lots of Jeeps on the lots, and the electronics have a bit of a parasitic load. AGMs do not like full discharge.

I found this out the hard way when I let the AGM in our travel van discharge. It was a 330AH, 180 lb AGM. Never came back from a low charge. In the RV world, rule of thumb is to not discharge your AGM battery below 50% or risk damage.

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[NC_Overland]

I can’t believe they charged 2 hrs labor. I did it in my garage watching YouTube videos as I went in an hr start to finish. Does it really book out at 2 hrs?

I don’t have the time or patience to read through 11 pages

 

[NC_Overland]

Looking through the battery threads, I wonder if those that experienced early failure had a dealer that let them discharge too low before purchase? Lots of Jeeps on the lots, and the electronics have a bit of a parasitic load. AGMs do not like full discharge.

I found this out the hard way when I let the AGM in our travel van discharge. It was a 330AH, 180 lb AGM. Never came back from a low charge. In the RV world, rule of thumb is to not discharge your AGM battery below 50% or risk damage.

You’d think so, but mine sat for 4+ months on their remote extra lot. 10/19 build date and I purchased it 2/20 with 5 miles on it. They jumped it and charged the batteries before I got it and my batteries lasted 5+ yrs.

 

[Stan H]

Looking through the battery threads, I wonder if those that experienced early failure had a dealer that let them discharge too low before purchase? Lots of Jeeps on the lots, and the electronics have a bit of a parasitic load. AGMs do not like full discharge.

I found this out the hard way when I let the AGM in our travel van discharge. It was a 330AH, 180 lb AGM. Never came back from a low charge. In the RV world, rule of thumb is to not discharge your AGM battery below 50% or risk damage.

That may have something to so with it but as I stated I have replaced mine twice. The jeep if I start it up and it's charging I will have to drive the entire 130 miles before the volt meter will read a normal charge reading . They charge very slowly.

 

[Splenda]

My JT is daily driven, at least 25-30mi total. Rarely sits even for a day as I'm always out and about on weekends. At 4yrs, 2months, 53k miles, still on original batteries but I can tell they're about due. Got ESS error recently, can tell that startup after ess is a bit of a struggle.

I'm looking at and researching the genesis dual battery setup. I don't think it's urgent yet, but has anyone see that set ever go on sale?

That's funny. I was just on the Genesis Offroad website. I added the $799 dual battery kit and two group 25 batteries to my cart, and it was about $1600. I started looking for discounts. I'm sure I could buy batteries cheaper locally, but that $799 for a steel tray and battery isolator just seems high. If I had the tools,I think I could build the tray myself and buy an isolator for a lot less. I think they're the only ones who make anything like this, and that's probably why it's so expensive.

 

[NC_Overland]

That's funny. I was just on the Genesis Offroad website. I added the $799 dual battery kit and two group 25 batteries to my cart, and it was about $1600. I started looking for discounts. I'm sure I could buy batteries cheaper locally, but that $799 for a steel tray and battery isolator just seems high. If I had the tools,I think I could build the tray myself and buy an isolator for a lot less. I think they're the only ones who make anything like this, and that's probably why it's so expensive.

Exactly, I’d fab something up with my ugly farmer welds before I paid that.

 

[Stan H]

Exactly, I’d fab something up with my ugly farmer welds before I paid that.

I'd just stay with the set up that is in em. Lots cheaper

 

[NC_Overland]

I'd just stay with the set up that is in em. Lots cheaper

I agree. That’s what I did. It was a general statement.

 

[biodiesel]

I'd just stay with the set up that is in em. Lots cheaper

The factory setup is fine as long as you keep a charger/maintainer/desulfator on the batteries. Even if you drive it daily, they still need to be desulfated. That's why I made a quick connect on all of my vehicles.

 

[Splenda]

I daily drive my JT, but I only average about 500 miles a month (6000 miles a year). I did that my battery doesn't get charged like it should, so about once a month, I hook up a slow charger to top it off.

 

[Stan H]

The factory setup is fine as long as you keep a charger/maintainer/desulfator on the batteries. Even if you drive it daily, they still need to be desulfated. That's why I made a quick connect on all of my vehicles.

Yes I have one on mine also .Mines not desiel, and mine comes off from the side . I raise the hood so I don't drive off and rip the cord out of the garage .

 

[danimal2000]

What exactly was the error?

Have you checked the voltage?

15-30 total is only 8-10 per trip, not nearly enough to keep batteries up. Try actually charging them. My bet is you really didn't drive it long enough at one time to keep them up

Yea agree not enough regularly.
Truck basically wouldn't come up after ess at a stoplight. This was near the end of a 350 mi drive. Then error "service ess system". And an amber ess symbol with exclamation point, above the fuel gauge.

Next time I started, no issues at all. Ess and everything normal

 

[danimal2000]

That's funny. I was just on the Genesis Offroad website. I added the $799 dual battery kit and two group 25 batteries to my cart, and it was about $1600. I started looking for discounts. I'm sure I could buy batteries cheaper locally, but that $799 for a steel tray and battery isolator just seems high. If I had the tools,I think I could build the tray myself and buy an isolator for a lot less. I think they're the only ones who make anything like this, and that's probably why it's so expensive.

Yep sitting in my cart too at $1565 before shipping... probably not gonna do it

 

[Splenda]

Yep sitting in my cart too at $1565 before shipping... probably not gonna do it

Obviously, I don't work for them, but I feel like $649 would be an acceptable price. At least that's the price I would be willing to pay for the kit. I'd already have one if they were $649.

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