ShadowsPapa
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Add to that diesel-electric locomotives. That's where a lot of diesel goes.Not that anyone cares, but here's how I feel about the whole electric/hybrid vehicle:
I personally prefer the feel and sound of a conventional gas powered vehicle. However, I see some advantages in hybrids besides just better gas mileage, for instance I like how Ford has pitched it's hybrid F150 to contractors and I wish that Jeep would make the 4xe models so it could be like a built in Jackery for camping and travelling. I think that not only is the grid not ready just yet, nor are there sufficient chargers, but in time I think that will be improved greatly.
While anyone could concede that recycling lithium is not up to speed yet, let us not pretend that extracting oil is the cleanest industry out there. People mention how dirty the mining of lithium is, yet nobody is concerned about how many old wells are leaking methane into the atmosphere, or the dirty brine used (and left in the ground) for fracking. Oddly enough, a new process called "petrolithium" could offer double duty of extracting lithium from oil wells and sealing those leaking wells. I look at what Toyota does, and I think that lithium based batteries will continue to be made, replaced, and used on vehicles well into the 400,000 mile range. You wouldn't see Prius taxis with a few hundred thousand on the odometer if it wasn't financially advantageous to do so for the end user, long after any tax breaks are gone.
Finally, I think that assuming that electric vehicles is solely a "dem" issue is foolish. There's a lot of conservatives that will make HUGE money seeing electric vehicles thrive, and are working to see that they do. But I also think it's foolish to think that oil consumption will be eliminated. I don't think bulldozers, tanks, and jet planes will be completely converted to a non petro-based fuel, and we'll never stop making plastics.
At any rate, we are somewhat along for the ride.
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