2" mopar lift vs 2.5" AEV Dual Sport

[Camaroboi13]

Is there a concern as far as safety/functionality goes with the AEV dual sport lift on 33s? Is the only issue less clearance and looking like tiny tires? The goal would to be eventually put 35s or 37s on but can I do the lift with 33s until then without problems?

No issue at all with running stock sized tires. Some say it looks good, some say otherwise. Personally, I plan on running this lift with the stock tires for as long as possible. I have 37s for the dirt but I want to retain the amazing fuel economy this diesel is getting me (27.5+ average) so it wouldn't make sense to drive on 37s all the time. So for me when I want to go play I'll just swap wheels and tires then come home and swap back.

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[shokker70]

With the diesel, make sure you go big enough on the leveling kit, especially if you have aftermarket bumper and winch, or plans for them. I have the Mopar lift with Smitty bumper and winch. Had to use a 1.5" level in the front and still has a slight rake.

 

[Free2roam]

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...with-factory-wheels-and-33s.41255/post-704304
This is a picture from one of the other threads on here. 2" Mopar lift and 33s I believe it's a Sport or Sport S.

 

[stewmaster]

No issue at all with running stock sized tires. Some say it looks good, some say otherwise. Personally, I plan on running this lift with the stock tires for as long as possible. I have 37s for the dirt but I want to retain the amazing fuel economy this diesel is getting me (27.5+ average) so it wouldn't make sense to drive on 37s all the time. So for me when I want to go play I'll just swap wheels and tires then come home and swap back.

good info.
Are you on the AEV or Mopar?
Is one better than the other for around town ride quality? My biggest disappointment with this truck has been the stock suspension hitting front bump stops way too easily on road driving. It’s a bit bouncy. So I’m hoping the kit will help with that too.

 

[21WhiteRubi]

So far I enjoy my AEV kit. Yes, there is more rake to it, but towing or hauling anything in the bed helps that out and doesn't make it nose high when doing so. And I have not had any issues yet with having rake and making it over obstacles, lol. Here are two pics with a Rubicon with the 2.5" DualSport lift. One with 35s and one with the final 37s:

On a sport model I think the 33s would look a little small. 35s might fit the bill nicely and be a sweet spot with the lower flares. 37s may have some rubbing issues where you may have to adjust bump stops. I know fully flexed out my fronts clear the rubicon flares, but not by much.

 

[Binfordtools]

So far I enjoy my AEV kit. Yes, there is more rake to it, but towing or hauling anything in the bed helps that out and doesn't make it nose high when doing so. And I have not had any issues yet with having rake and making it over obstacles, lol. Here are two pics with a Rubicon with the 2.5" DualSport lift. One with 35s and one with the final 37s:

You said the AEV has a rake but in this picture it looks pretty level to me.

 

[21WhiteRubi]

You said the AEV has a rake but in this picture it looks pretty level to me.

My driveway has a slight downward slope right there, so the front suspension is extended just a bit.

 

[Free2roam]

So far I enjoy my AEV kit. Yes, there is more rake to it, but towing or hauling anything in the bed helps that out and doesn't make it nose high when doing so. And I have not had any issues yet with having rake and making it over obstacles, lol. Here are two pics with a Rubicon with the 2.5" DualSport lift. One with 35s and one with the final 37s:

On a sport model I think the 33s would look a little small. 35s might fit the bill nicely and be a sweet spot with the lower flares. 37s may have some rubbing issues where you may have to adjust bump stops. I know fully flexed out my fronts clear the rubicon flares, but not by much.

Anyone have a measurement in the difference between the Sport S and Rubicon on the front fenders?

 

[chorky]

So further comparing the two, in theory, the primary operational difference is AEV uses relocation brackets while MOPAR just does longer lower control arms.

Now, the brackets from AEV relocate the lower AND upper control arms. So does that imply that the MOPAR kit would have worse alignment issues? Track bar aside…

from my understanding, on a Rubicon model the MOPAR nets about a inch gain. But the AEV kit nets about 2 inches. So with that consideration, if one were to start with the MOPAR lift and later on realize they needed higher capacity springs could they just throw in AEV springs?

I sorta feel like the two lifts are too far different for this to really be a good backup plan but am curious as my local dealer really pushes the MoPAR lift and not so much AEV.

 

[chorky]

Neither! Use the $$$ to go Metalcloak or one of the other excellent suspension lifts

I think they have a higher lift than I was planning. But their descriptions dont specify what the weight rating is. Something I find valuable with other springs. Do you happen to know?

No surprise to hear that...the dealer is pushing Mopar for $$$ and/or because it is covered under the factory warranty

yeah they always do that, most likely because they get them on discount and make more money that way. Would be my thought anyway. But being covered under warranty without having to dispute doesnt hurt.

 

[Sarge502]

Little bit of a thread revival here but I felt this thread was perfect rather than starting a new one, considering my concern is based off both lifts, in question.

So, I was initially all on board with the MOPAR lift for numerous reasons. I was already aware that (although some say it isn't necessary), that the Mopar lift doesn't come with a track bar or anything else that would seemingly justify their price. But oh well, I was going to go with it anyways. Then to top it off they recently raised it another $200 as if it wasn't already expensive enough considering what comes with it (or should I say doesn't come with it). Then if I did want to get a dealer to install it (not that I couldn't myself) they still want to rape you on labor (quoted me $1835 recently just on labor). So, with that said MOPAR can kick rocks as far as I'm concerned. I get inflation, etc but at this point I feel like it's just raising prices just because they can. It's ridiculous and I was one to really stand by Mopar stuff. Only way I'll go that route at this point, is if I catch a private seller with a deal.

Which brings me to my next option the AEV Dualsport RT (non-diesel). It's still within my preferred height range and have heard nothing but good things. A friend I know has it and swears by it. It looks good, but he also has 37s. I have 35s, but I think even on 35s it'll look fine considering I don't have high lined fenders for extra space.

So, my overall concern which I really didn't see answered within this thread is....

Has anyone with the AEV 2.5 lift kept or added a spacer lift to the front while running the lift? I currently have the Teraflex 1.5 spacer up front. But even had I went with the MOPAR lift, I planned to keep at least the 1" puck from it after the lift, just to compensate for not only the rake but my steel "Mopar" bumper and winch (eventually). I've heard/seen people with the Mopar lift running the teraflex with it and have no issues. Can this also be achieved with the AEV? Mostly asking due to the AEV having correction brackets unlike the Mopar one so not sure what if any effects it would have on the lift running atleast a 1" spacer with it. If anyone can advise?

 

[Free2roam]

Did you have any luck finding anything? I’m looking to do the same. Sport diesel with 33s. My tires just have way too much life left to replace them but I’m tired of waiting for the lift.

I have not sorry to say. Still debating on the lift.

 

[chorky]

Reviving this thread as I haven't found the answer I'm looking for yet. Maybe someone here knows.

Still debating between MOPAR and AEV lift. I don't need a lot of lift, and only going to run 35's. I don't want a ton of lift, but I do want to make sure I'm not going to sag terribly with a fully loaded weight (front and rear bumper, front and rear winches, canopy, recovery gear, off road gear, camping gear, RTT, etc...LRA 18 gallon gas tank). I would assume that full weight for being ready to go would be pushing close to the max GVW - but I intend to not exceed GVW.

My current thought process is to start with the MOPAR - purely to appease the Fiat gods (owners of jeep). With my particular load out, I might be ok weight wise. But I am aware the MOPAR springs are soft, and single rate. Rear rake may be beneficial. But later on was considering the option of swapping out springs for either the AEV springs (and their rear geometry bracket), or Dobinson springs - depending on their length's

Here's the issues. I cannot find a spec on spring differences. Of course the springs on the MOPAR lift are lighter weight compared to AEV. But I can't find any documentation that discusses the length of either MOPAR springs, or AEV springs, in order to compare and see if they are even remotely similar lengths. This is important of course to make sure shocks will be ok, and if bump stops need to be adjusted, etc....My hope would be that the MOPAR springs and AEV springs would be close to the same height, but for the AEV springs to just be at a higher rate.

I did call AEV yesterday. They said they don't even have a length spec for the springs. They did mention, that their HD 3.5 springs are (unofficially so don't quote me) more designed not just for higher weights, but for weights over GVW. I certainly plan to not be over GVW for legal reasons - dont need to take that risk. So their standard springs will probably be fine.

There have been a few reports of AEV lift's netting closer to 3, or slightly over 3". Whereas MOPAR is at or slightly over 2" for the Rubicon. Unloaded measurements of course.

So does anyone happen to know how their spring lengths compare? Or might Dobinson have springs the same length as the MOPAR's?

 

[chorky]

Dobinson does list some 2" springs but doesn't really give a whole lot of info. They list a weight - assuming that might be weight over stock, but no info given on if they are a single, double, or triple rate.

https://www.dobinsonsdirect.com/pages/product-result?rq=mk_jeep~md_gladiator-jt~yr_2020-2022

@ShadowsPapa - you have them up front right? Any comments on them?



They also offer a full lift, but it's 3" and would not appease the Fiat gods
https://www.dobinsonsdirect.com/pro...-kit-jeep-gladiator-jt?variant=42306372796653

 

[leopardprey]

So with the Mopar kit on a Rubicon you are getting how much extra lift actually actually? Less than 2” from stock since the Rubicon is already a bit higher than non-Rubicon models?

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