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Oh I am very aware of Tank customs and Chris on this forum. He has built some sick Jeeps. I just didn’t know they had a hydraulic steering kit available.
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Oh I am very aware of Tank customs and Chris on this forum. He has built some sick Jeeps. I just didn’t know they had a hydraulic steering kit available.
Whao whao whao, we cant be tooooo nice, they haven't sold my take off D44 axles yet ! Hahaha
 

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Oh I am very aware of Tank customs and Chris on this forum. He has built some sick Jeeps. I just didn’t know they had a hydraulic steering kit available.
Thanks!
It’s not our kit, but a WTO kit spec’d to our liking :beer:
 

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Awesome build!!!! Where's the HEMI?? I ordered the axle shafts and the other stuff a few weeks ago for the 37s going on my D44s. Could have saved a few bucks with your setup!!!
 

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Awesome build!!!! Where's the HEMI?? I ordered the axle shafts and the other stuff a few weeks ago for the 37s going on my D44s. Could have saved a few bucks with your setup!!!
I have my eye on something special, not a Hemi, but close its a secret for now.
 

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How are you liking the Evo springs? I see a lot of mixed reviews on them with them bowing on the front etc..? Also is there any rake on the rear? I'm looking to swap out my 3.5 MC Springs
 
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No Rake on the rear and rear springs are great. The front springs are not terrible but not perfect. I do have some bowing on the front Passenger side, but the correction pad they sent me fixed it.
 

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How are things going with your build ? Over the dinner I had the crazy thought to cancel the 40s and build up for 43s.
 

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How are things going with your build ? Over the dinner I had the crazy thought to cancel the 40s and build up for 43s.
Sorry for the late reply. I have been travelling quite a bit. I am finished with the build.

Regarding your thought of building for 43's, here is my take: If you are wrestling with the thought now, then do it. 1 of 2 things will happen. You will either go with 40's and regret it and not be happy or you will end doing it anyways and then have to deal with selling your 40's, etc etc.

There are some options for 43's on the market: Interco, Mickey T's, and Nitto makes a 42" that is quite popular as well.

I suggest you go with D 60's front/back, get the RAM heavy duty brake kit and at a MINIMUM go with 5.38 gears. If possible, go bigger like 5.88's or into the 6's if possible. I have 5.38 gears and my truck can only see 7th and 8th gear downhill. Flat highway driving with no crosswinds the best I can manage is 6th gear.

I do not daily drive my truck but unless you are going to trailer the truck to/from trails you do need to drive it on pavement at least a little.

I would also add, hydraulic steering has been excellent but make sure someone reputable builds it.
 

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Sorry for the late reply. I have been travelling quite a bit. I am finished with the build.

Regarding your thought of building for 43's, here is my take: If you are wrestling with the thought now, then do it. 1 of 2 things will happen. You will either go with 40's and regret it and not be happy or you will end doing it anyways and then have to deal with selling your 40's, etc etc.

There are some options for 43's on the market: Interco, Mickey T's, and Nitto makes a 42" that is quite popular as well.

I suggest you go with D 60's front/back, get the RAM heavy duty brake kit and at a MINIMUM go with 5.38 gears. If possible, go bigger like 5.88's or into the 6's if possible. I have 5.38 gears and my truck can only see 7th and 8th gear downhill. Flat highway driving with no crosswinds the best I can manage is 6th gear.

I do not daily drive my truck but unless you are going to trailer the truck to/from trails you do need to drive it on pavement at least a little.

I would also add, hydraulic steering has been excellent but make sure someone reputable builds it.
That’s helpful! Thanks so much. Since I could not make up my mind I canceled my 40s and will put 38s on for now as an upgrade from the 37s but 42/43 is where I will end up (would be nice if the jamborees would get rid of their 40 max tire size mandate)

Going 42/43 will require for me a new long arm lift prob with coil overs, hydraulic assist, driveshafts, D60/80 or something with 8 lug wheels and so on = big $$& project and I think I’ll ask AMW to do everything in one swoop.

So I probably get another year out of the current build and since I do have the HEMI already not too worried about power and gears with the big tires but MPGs and range at that point lol.

The beauty of a 37/38 setup is it basically drives like stock or actually better with the HEMI (at least the 37s do). I do DD the truck but don’t really have to (just want to all the time ha ha ). The only issue is the tires still look small.
 
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Good morning. My first post. Been reading the forum for a few weeks. Time to man-up, join and try to contribute. Great group of folks on here. Glad to be a part!


2020 White Overland - purchased May 1st 2020 - 5k miles (don't drive it much on pavement) - I knew I was going to build this truck out, no need for a Max Tow or Rubicon when I was replacing it all anyways (except the locker, but didn't justify Rubicon price just for a locker). This truck is my only hobby and my free time is spent using it for fun, so I put all the money I can into it. I am learning, as I go, about what it takes to have a truly capable rig. I enjoy learning more each day.

The only Mod/part I regret so far is the Mopar hard bed cover.

Lift + tires/wheels:
- 6.5" Stage 4 EVO left w/ King shocks + 43" Tires (DOT radials) + Black Rhino Rage -44 offset, I dislike "bling bling" 20" wheels but on a build this size, you have to have a big offset and most large offset wheels come in a 20" or larger. I stayed with 17" wheels (just couldn't bring myself to bling it out) but do not quite have the turning clearance I need. I will not use wheel spacers, I'll chop metal before I use a spacer, I'll see how it goes in the future on difficult trails.
Drivetrain:
- 5.38 G2 gears, Diff Cover, HD ball joints, Metal Cloak disconnects, Metal Cloak 1-ton Drag Link, D44 Artec truss. King steering stabilizer, Powerstop big rotors + pads. Front drive shaft to improve front pinion angle, aFe RK Exhaust (added a little bit of nice sound but no serious gains), aFe cold-air intake (added some nice sound but I've not noticed any serious gains)
Exterior:
- Arcus Stubby Front Bumper (excellent turn clearance for large tires), Smittybilt 12k winch (this winch is legit....so far..), Bushwacker high fenders (turn signal lights are high quality), Scorcher (helps with RPM's but no serious gains), Barricade Roof rack (zero whistle, strong connection points), stubby ant (yes reception is good in the city but on trails, not so much), N-Fab steps, DV8 inner liners (not a great fit for the King Shock reseviors- needing trimming), Kemimoto motorcycle side mirrors (for doors off) and they stay on full time !!! Love this mod !
Extra:
- Taser (good for folks who want to reprogram lights, speedo, etc) this does not work for me, because it will only calibrate the speedo up to a 41.88" tire and I have 43's
Forthcoming:
- Chromoly axle shafts, D60's

All told, I've spent north of $25k so far + the price of the truck and I am not done (just puked in my mouth a little typing that). Not because I WANT to keep buying, but because I do not want to break what I've already bought. This. is. not. inexpensive. nor fast.

Current problems, not yet fixed: (and you/I/we both thought spending all that money and time meant not having problems ? Incorrect sir/madam)
- Death wobble between 35Mp/h - 45Mp/h (doesn't exist at low speed or high speeds). So far I am convinced this is due to the tire being a monster with huge lugs and there is simply nothing can be done to fix it
- Something, somewhere is lightly rattling. This ghostly sound can only be heard when I am by myself because the moment I take it somewhere to be fixed, it goes away. This must be karma for all the gross/mean/sarcastic stuff I have done to others in my youth/Army/early adulthood/world travels and now I am being paid back by the ghost of something metal !


Be blessed everyone.

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Man, we have had VERY similar experience with building our JTs! I also have spent way too much money and time going slowly. 2 inch lift 37s…4 inch lift 38s,40’s,42s… then 43x15 MT pro baja xs. Chromoly axle shafts adams 1350 drive shafts… did yukon 5.13 Then yukon 5.38…..i have that EXACT same wobble from 35-45 mph. I finally decided to do the Evo 6.5 inch rear coilover and the Evo double throwdown in the front, long arms front and rear. After reading your post I hope my wobble goes away with the upgrades and this time at a VERY good Jeep shop. (Had to drive an hour to take it there but im sure it is in good hands. Pick it up in a couple of weeks.
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