2020 Gladiator Rubicon - Magnuson Install issues - P0451 - P057B - P0306

[dcmdon]

your whole post is irrelevant and has no purpose in my post. It seems your here to complain instead of help. You might want to go back to Karensland.com

Thanks for the insult. It takes a big man to call people names on the Internet.

Enjoy your misery.

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[Tbanks]

Thanks for the insult. Enjoy your misery.

You create your own thread on how you hate Magnuson and superchargers that claim Plug in Play. Than you can enjoy your Karen ways. Complaining here is not constructive just pointless.

 

[cmb396]

I'd like to add that there is basically NO plug and play serious modifications. If one is worried about side effects of mods, better off leaving it stock.
Lift it, ya deal with steering issues, ride quality.
Supercharge it, ya never know what will break next?! Not a matter of if, but when.
I have a 650hp Ford diesel, a $3 part just cost me 6k.
Just confirmed yesterday that the stage 3 built rear diff in my heads cam Z06 is trashed.
I am not aware of any serious mods to jeeps, trucks, or cars that are plug and play hassle free. Just my .02...

 

[DAVECS1]

Really depends on who is doing the install. There are shops and individuals that are talented, but when working on 2010 and up cars and truck that see daily driven status, there is a huge toolbox of knowledge needed to make things trouble free. The days of when I. Doubt build it stout are over and your vehicle is an eco system of engineering that relies on the design of many neighboring systems to make things live, and work. Guy or gal may be an ace with a wrench and a welder, but if your doing engine work or driveline work they need to be an ace with the laptop to, because it is no longer just fuel and spark. Many new vehicles measure acceleration and yaw and apply torque management and different shift schedules. Your throttle toes your input and compares that with rolling resistance and calculated torque , angina capability then applies an acceleration curve that was tuned to feel nice.

You add a 15-20% change to these systems you just modified 1000-1800 hours of validation and verification.

Many are like ohh just take some throttle out, or let's delete the second O2s and gut the cats.

Well the throttle has 62 different tables that interface with a 132 other tables and arrays. So you can change 1 or 4 but there is a fair chance it will throw something off.

Your rear O2s are not just checking to see if the cats are good any more. There are 32 tables devoted to timing fuel based on the after cat read and temperature of the exhaust.

At the end if the day there are many shops that will tell you they can install stuff, and they even think with their dyno and laptop they have the rest of the vehicle covered, but what they fail to realize, is gone are the days of adding some number to two or three tables and she will run acceptable. Gone are the days of dropping all the torque management and Nannies. Gone are the days of adding one upgrade and not having to consider everything it is attached to.

There are shops that can do it and unfortunately they are not cheap, because the tooling, training, and time are all premium products.

 

[dcmdon]

You create your own thread on how you hate Magnuson and superchargers that claim Plug in Play. Than you can enjoy your Karen ways. Complaining here is not constructive just pointless.

I don't hate it at all. It may be the best of all the choices. My point, and I really didn't expect any conflict on this, was simply that people need to go into something like this with the understanding that they require tweaking. Sometimes, ongoing tweaking. And that often times people don't.

I'm done.

 

[Tbanks]

I don't hate it at all. It may be the best of all the choices. My point, and I really didn't expect any conflict on this, was simply that people need to go into something like this with the understanding that they require tweaking. Sometimes, ongoing tweaking. And that often times people don't.

I'm done.

I agree with you on this statement.

 

[JeepOfTheseus]

Great to hear!!! Thank you

Guessing you got this info, but the brake pedal code should be clearable by using the position reset/relearn in VCM. I just got around to resetting it tonight - will see how it goes tomorrow.

 

[Tbanks]

Guessing you got this info, but the brake pedal code should be clearable by using the position reset/relearn in VCM. I just got around to resetting it tonight - will see how it goes tomorrow.

Thank you Ryan!!

 

[Tbanks]

@DAVECS1

Looks like TE Motorsports did everything as you requested and the Jeep is running 100% better. They did the relearn for cam/crank, Throttle reset as well.

Once I get my Jeep back I will send over my stock file to get your tune going for install.

Thank you everyone for replying to help me with this.

Also, for the relearning I needed Beta Version of VCM installed:
https://files.hptuners.com/VCM Suite/VCM Suite (Beta).msi

 

[JeepOfTheseus]

P057B came back after a reset unfortunately :/

 

[DAVECS1]

Do you have HP Tnuers yet. If so if you take a data log I can see what is going on

 

[Tbanks]

Update 1 : TE Motorsports in Escondido is now making me pay for a new EGR Valve after they broke it (Excuse - We are not responsible for customers parts breaking) This is frustrating knowing on step 55 of the install, they have to remove the wire connecting to the EGR value. I paid for the new part so I can get my Gladiator back and running.

Update 2: After TE Motorsports installed the Beta version of VCM and ran (relearn cam,crank and throttle) all other check engine issues went away. So 1 positive and 1 negative. Once I get my Jeep back working perfect I will let you guys know.

I rather keep it real and upfront with my situation.

 

[Tbanks]

After @DAVECS1 said it was a install issue and Magnuson Support saying it was a Install issue, after ordering a new EGR valve and gasket. I get this email this morning. @DAVECS1 was right from the beginning. Magnuson Support is great, they did everything they could to put TE Motorsports in check to get my car right.


This is a great forum thank you everyone for your help.

 

[Tbanks]

Update:

- The FCV Issues got fixed by doing a BCM Re-Flash
- PCM Check Engine lights Misfire, Brake, got fixed by using Beta version of VCM Editor running *re-learn cam and crank, relearn throttle

After purchasing Unlocked PCM from HP Tuners, I found out you have to go to dealer and get a PCM, TCM and BCM re-flash. (or use wiTech 2.0 device to do it yourself)


Last thing Im working on now is D on the shifter blinks randomly making me have to pull over, put the car in park than back to drive to drive again.

Also, when I floor it, I get power for 2-3 seconds of power than the power drops big time. I wondering if TE Motorsports didn't gap my sparkplugs correctly

Once I get everything fixed and running great, I will say what I did and how its going.

 

[JeepOfTheseus]

The EGR was the stupidest f*cking part of this install. Just sayin.

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