3.0L Diesel High Pressure Fuel Pump Recall Z96

[Dougstdig]

August 2020. I’m in.

Anything I should be doing in the meantime to reduce the risk before the 2Q 2023 repair?

I’ve put diesel service fuel additive in almost every tank of my diesel engines dating back to 2008. It adds lubricity of the fuel and increases the Cretan’s level. That’s about 380,000 miles between 3 vehicles of which 2 I still own without a fuel related failure.

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[Teqsand]

That’s a funny, but not-so-funny topic, too.

Mine had a build date of 4/22. I matched my window sticker against the options listed on the Jeep website in July when I purchased it, and the price of the options had increased by around $900.

I was damn lucky that the dealership probably didn’t realize that and print a new sticker, or otherwise jack the price.

Mine came from a small Missouri dealership. $66k-something MSRP, got it for $61k. A no b.s deal. No paint protection, nitrogen in the tires, bogus car alarm, etc. Just the truck and a refreshingly honest deal for a change.

I ordered mine in Nov 21, MSRP WAS 65, I got it for 59, when it was delivered the 67.... the sticker on the one I ordered will be around 70k but getting it for near 62k... 3k to replace what I had...

 

[Teqsand]

I’ve put diesel service fuel additive in almost every tank of my diesel engines dating back to 2008. It adds lubricity of the fuel and increases the Cretan’s level. That’s about 380,000 miles between 3 vehicles of which 2 I still own without a fuel related failure.

Only really matters if any of those have the CP4 pump... if they have the CP3 you're golden, that's a great pump, the 4 SUCKS!!!!

 

[Dougstdig]

Honestly, I don’t remember what the 08’ dodge with the 6.7 has on it, but I do know the truck runs noticeably quieter and smoother with it.

 

[SPD KILS]

From the other thread:

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/attachments/rclrpt-22v767-8697-pdf.277830/

Gladiator production dates June 4 2020 - May 13 2022 (different dates for Wranglers also noted in this recall)

Phewww, just missed it. May 22, 2022

 

[Dougstdig]

Phewww, just missed it. May 22, 2022

…unless they found 1 last one in a closet or on a bench?

 

[Rusty PW]

Honestly, I don’t remember what the 08’ dodge with the 6.7 has on it, but I do know the truck runs noticeably quieter and smoother with it.

Ram used the CP4 in 2019 and 2020.

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

Does anyone know if replacing this pump requires the winch, bumper and grill to come off? There’s zero chance I’m going to have a dealer take off my bumper which means either I take it all off and drive my illegal Jeep up to the dealer with its frame ends sticking out or have it towed in once I find a new competent dealer.

 

[Free2roam]

Does anyone know if replacing this pump requires the winch, bumper and grill to come off? There’s zero chance I’m going to have a dealer take off my bumper which means either I take it all off and drive my illegal Jeep up to the dealer with its frame ends sticking out or have it towed in once I find a new competent dealer.

Call a dealer and ask the question?

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

Call a dealer and ask the question?

? Has that ever actually worked for any issue in the entire history of the automobile industry?

I can count on one hand, assuming the hand was in an industrial accident and lost 3 fingers, the number of intelligent conversations I had at a dealership with a technician or service writer.

Over the phone that number is zero. At my Toyota dealership, when you call, you get “Bob” in Hyderabad India. At my current Jeep dealership, they don’t even answer the phone anymore.

 

[Rusty PW]

Does anyone know if replacing this pump requires the winch, bumper and grill to come off? There’s zero chance I’m going to have a dealer take off my bumper which means either I take it all off and drive my illegal Jeep up to the dealer with its frame ends sticking out or have it towed in once I find a new competent dealer.

From googling. The front bumper, winch, and what ever else you have mounted to the front doesn't need to come off. But it will slow down the speed of the job because of working around it.

 

[MOPAR Boy]

From googling. The front bumper, winch, and what ever else you have mounted to the front doesn't need to come off. But it will slow down the speed of the job because of working around it.

So, if that’s the case, you can rest assured all of that will come off!

 

[Rusty PW]

So, if that’s the case, you can rest assured all of that will come off!

From the pictures I've seen The top front of the engine comes apart. So you are working over the radiator.

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

I’ve spent my evening catching up on the CP4 fiasco all over the internet (this forum, Wrangler forum, JL forum, Jeep Garage, diesel forums, Ram forums, Reddit, that Google-spam MotorTriscuit, etc, etc. Seemingly like all things EcoDiesel it’s a bunch of conjecture with the exception of the very real stories of those unlucky enough to have their pump fail, but even those are unclear on what exactly happened to solve the problem (replacing a lemon pump with another lemon) because of all the dead ends at the hands of the dealership monkeys.

Until S.T.A.R. Lord has a procedure, they do what dealerships do; bs the customer and throw parts at it. They pulled one guys engine and replaced the reluctor ring, ignoring him and the metal shavings in his injectors. I’ve been there before, the early victim of what will eventually be a common problem on other cars. Now we have recall 2? 3? What’s next 2023s?

The “I read” “I saw” “I heard” leans towards a revised version of the same series pump. It sounds like (for what little that’s worth) anyone who’s had one fail probably got screwed into a direct replacement and those whose Jeep didn’t sit in a repair bay for 3 months and who now get the recall may go from a pump with a 3-7% failure rate to what, a new design? A CP3 that fits is a mythical creature at this point. Maybe some lucky or connected individual will find some engineering report that details the exact reason pump version CP4.x will be quantitatively better. I’ll probably call Stellantis or a dealership because OCD and because I appreciate the feeling of cool smoke gently being blown up my ass. I’ll report back anything useful.

I’m in no hurry to let the monkeys have a whack at my ride. I’m not chomping at the bit to be the first at dealership x to have Mr. “quiet quitting” do this major job for the first time following procedures written by an engineer that’s never picked up a wrench. I’m going to keep on keeping on enjoying the hell out of my lil’ diesel until real information comes to light why this recall actually solves anything, outside of appeasing NHTSA, to be worth the risk inherent in letting some votech pothead screw up my truck taking it apart, or my engine blows up. At that point, I may just send the shit up to AMW for a Hellcat swap and 42’s. One last hurrah before the slow creeping hand of electrified lameness takes me to pumpkin spice kale latte land. For now, my Jeep jimmies remain unrustled by Bosch’s zeitbombe.

 

[Cracked_Windshield]

Oh, well. Seems you can get your faulty seat belt retractors fixed at the same time:

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/79-937-jeeps-rams-involved-212700989.html

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