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… As in lawsuit against the driver or manufacture? I could see responsibility on both sides here.
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Maximum weight with improper weight distribution and fish tailing can be a hell of a drug.

Especially if the driver was new to trailers and reacted badly to the trailer fishtailing.
 

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… As in lawsuit against the driver or manufacture? I could see responsibility on both sides here.
Can't see how Jeep can be liable, everything is spelled out in the owner's manual as far as the Jeep's capabilities and how to safely tow with the Gladiator.
 

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This is not playing well in other media.

Jeep better get the answer here or alot of bad things will start brewing.
 

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How do we know he didn't swerve to miss something or get cut off entering the construction zone? Everyone is assuming the trailer fish tailed due to overload but I find it somewhat unlikely due to being a construction zone where speeds are lower and sway not usually an issue. I'm guessing some kind of traffic incident or not leaving enough space in front. In any case I see no damage so looks like the truck/ trailer will continue on. This is textbook mountain out of a mole hill.
 

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The problem in that video is pretty obvious...they're trying to tow with a Mustang! :giggle:
 

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Not necessarily. My old toy hauler weighed (on a scale) in at 7k with a rhino, 2 quads and full fresh water tank. This one looks about the same size.

But I’d venture no weight distribution hitch the way the vehicle is twisted relative to trailer. And probably no brake controller either. Which probably points to an inexperienced person behind the wheel...

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Trailer sway (fishtailing) can easily panic a novice tower, resulting in overcompensating corrections, exacerbating the fishtailing... rather than calmly driving the trailer through the sway, and allowing it to straighten back out again. On my back and forths crossing the country, I’ve come across too many late night accidents, involving overloaded Uhaul trailers. Always the same story from the driver... “...it was towing fine, for hours, then out of the blue started fishtailing...” more likely started when driver (getting tired) made a sharp correction and started the trailer swaying... combine that with too heavy, probably no swaybars, no brake, novice tower... and “Houston we have a problem!” ;{
 

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Does the tow package not come with a brake controller?
 

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Here's what hit my mind first time I saw those pics a month ago:

Who camps alone with a camper that big?

Nobody? Well then he was massively overloaded because a Rubicon with a family inside will typically be limited to <4,000 lbs. towing legally due to it's payload rating.

So my guess is, this guy is in serious trouble with the insurance company and he's lucky the only vehicle with damage was his.
 

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Here's what hit my mind first time I saw those pics a month ago:

Who camps alone with a camper that big?

Nobody? Well then he was massively overloaded because a Rubicon with a family inside will typically be limited to <4,000 lbs. towing legally due to it's payload rating.

So my guess is, this guy is in serious trouble with the insurance company and he's lucky the only vehicle with damage was his.

With a properly configured wd hitch, you can haul around 350lbs cargo at the 7000lbs tow limit as you'll bump up against the gcwr above that, even though you'll still be 100lbs or so below the gvwr. With a 5000lbs trailer, which is typical for trailers that size, you can haul around 750-800lbs cargo before you hit gvwr, which should cover a family of 4 pretty easily. A wd hitch pushes ~1/3 of the tongue weight back on the trailer, so reduces the net weight of the vehicle - in the case of a Rubicon towing 5000lbs, that gives 350‐400lbs payload used out of 1150. That does presume a properly setup hitch, who knows in this case.
 

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Jeep Gladiator Alright, whose gladiator and what's the story? D86C6E8C-2644-415C-8FFA-C53A19D20CA6

Here is the trailer I tow. It is loaded correctly and I use the tekonsha Prodigy RF brake controller. My gladiator is a diesel and tows like a charm!! In this picture the trailer with load is probably 4000 to 4500 lbs.
 
 



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