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I guess had we met at some off road gathering at a jeep function and you were excited about this product I never heard about, I’d be asking what’s in it. Just my nature. But i too am glad you have had success with it for years and are continuing to see great results.
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Look at the crazy range of possible concentrations! 20-50%? You have no real idea how much of what is in there, in fact, if two or three of those things were at the max, then there's no room for the other "ingredients".
That's not an analysis - it's for in case you drink it.

Read this to get a good indication of what paraffin does in oil additives.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/chlorinated-paraffin-as-an-oil-additive.72918/
Yeah, as I suspected, that thread addresses "acids". That thread alone is good reason, on top of all of my other reasons, to avoid such things.
There's research out there showing it can be damaging and actually cause trouble with the chemistry of some oils.
 

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Soooooo..... Been using it for years with great results so far. I asked if anyone had used it in their 3.6L and got a bunch of reasons why I shouldn't use it. ? Okee dokee.
Would love to see the inside of the engine - and determine if it could run even longer with no additives.
I've honestly torn engines down that looked like carpenter ants had gotten to the bearings. Have pictures somewhere, of what acids do inside.

Good change you'd have had the exact same luck with no additives if a good oil was used.
That's my only point - "used it for years, good luck" isn't proof or reasons.

I don't run any additives in any of my engines and I have great luck, have for over 50 years. That includes those with some rather radical cam ramps.
 

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Look at the crazy range of possible concentrations! 20-50%? You have no real idea how much of what is in there, in fact, if two or three of those things were at the max, then there's no room for the other "ingredients".
That's not an analysis - it's for in case you drink it.
It is not intended to be an analysis, nor does it disclose the exact quantity of any constituent. It is a documentation of potentially harmful ingredients both for poison control and for firefighting purposes. In the USA, the contents of the documents are mandated by OSHA, and the documents have to be available to employees as well as emergency planning and emergency response agencies.
 

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