Be careful when driving on rainy days...

[SargeDiesel]

I wasn't there and I am not judging...
but
after reviewing the video a few times... I can see the car hit the brake and rode them... relatively early, yet you didn't appear to also brake or even slow down.

Seems like if you braked sooner, which would have allowed for a softer decent, you would have stopped in time.

Like I said, hard to tell from the video... much different than in the drivers seat.

Glad you are okay... and wow did that car take a hit... BAM !

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[Redfour5]

We had a rear end collision on our way to the factory.
Although the speed was not fast, it was too slippery and I felt the tires dragging on the ground...

AND, drum roll please, the reason I refused to buy one that did NOT have the Selec Trac Full time four wheel drive. I also have limited slip, but I'm old and go way back. full time four wheel drive addresses hydroplaning almost as good as it does snow, slush etc. I've had all variants of four wheel drive, All wheel drive etc.

Essentially, if the drive train gets slippage of any sort, the 4WD kicks in and occasionally the limited slip in certain situations. Your standard 4WD can be surprisingly limited and for most driving you are stuck with two wheel drive like any other car...

The full time is without thought and does its job. You can leave it there if you want, but I'd recommend only using it in like your situation lots o rain or for me in MT, pretty much November until around now as in toward the end of March...

It's the best 800 bucks I ever spent... But then again, sometimes it doesn't matter what you do you are toast.

 

[Sweetums]

I have never heard of those tires and searching for them isn't coming up with any results. Cheap tires are asking for trouble, and that tire tread pattern doesn't look ideal for water evacuation or for having enough biting edges.

If this is the first storm in a while the pavement can be a slick as snow or ice; oil and fluid drips build up on the upper layer of the road. When it rains, these fluids get churned into an emulsion with the water, essentially lubricating the road surface. Combine that with standing water and cheap tires, and you are in a bad way very quickly.

 

[Exceed Fabrication]

Do you know the materials in the road construction? I have lived on Pacific islands where coral makes its way into the road materials and they become extremely slippery when wet. Just a thought?

All I know is that the highway we were driving on was supposed to be asphalt, which is the material of most highways in China, but I didn't find out the exact recipe

 

[Exceed Fabrication]

I noticed that many people are concerned about our tires. I am not an expert in this field. We wanted to choose KO2 or STT at first, but it was approaching the Chinese New Year and the modification shop could not order it. They recommended this tire to us. It is indeed produced in China, but I don't really doubt its performance because we have encountered much worse road conditions when traveling on the plateau, but it did not let us down. If I must divide the responsibility for this accident, I think my failure to maintain sufficient distance and attention accounted for 60%, and the remaining 40% was the road surface and tires.

 

[sharpsicle]

AND, drum roll please, the reason I refused to buy one that did NOT have the Selec Trac Full time four wheel drive. I also have limited slip, but I'm old and go way back. full time four wheel drive addresses hydroplaning almost as good as it does snow, slush etc. I've had all variants of four wheel drive, All wheel drive etc.

Essentially, if the drive train gets slippage of any sort, the 4WD kicks in and occasionally the limited slip in certain situations. Your standard 4WD can be surprisingly limited and for most driving you are stuck with two wheel drive like any other car...

The full time is without thought and does its job. You can leave it there if you want, but I'd recommend only using it in like your situation lots o rain or for me in MT, pretty much November until around now as in toward the end of March...

It's the best 800 bucks I ever spent... But then again, sometimes it doesn't matter what you do you are toast.

This is an odd comment. Selec-Trac won't help when you're braking.

 

[Redfour5]

Yep...

 

[Exceed Fabrication]

I wasn't there and I am not judging...
but
after reviewing the video a few times... I can see the car hit the brake and rode them... relatively early, yet you didn't appear to also brake or even slow down.

Seems like if you braked sooner, which would have allowed for a softer decent, you would have stopped in time.

Like I said, hard to tell from the video... much different than in the drivers seat.

Glad you are okay... and wow did that car take a hit... BAM !

I can't remember clearly, and I definitely didn't react in time, but I feel that I braked earlier than the video shows. If I look at the dashcam data, my speed didn't drop by a few miles from the time I noticed the car in front of me braked to the time I hit it. Of course, I didn't brake with all my strength at the beginning. At that time, all the cars were very close, and my sudden braking would also cause the car behind me to hit my truck. But if I had to make a choice again, I would rather let someone else hit me... At least my rear bumper is made of steel.

 

[Exceed Fabrication]

This is an odd comment. Selec-Trac won't help when you're braking.

I didn't understand what he meant either. Aren't all Gladi and Wrangler models able to switch between rear-wheel drive and four-wheel drive?

 

[sharpsicle]

I didn't understand what he meant either. Aren't all Gladi and Wrangler models able to switch between rear-wheel drive and four-wheel drive?

Yeah, but Selec-Trac automatically does that for you based on the conditions it senses. It's just another option for the 4WD transfer case.

But again, it's 4-wheel-drive, not 4-wheel-brake, so it would only help you accelerate or maintain speed/stability in adverse conditions. Every car already has 4-wheel-brake.

 

[Exceed Fabrication]

I thought of an interesting paradox. In theory, we should keep a safe distance from the car in front of us. But from my experience driving in China, sometimes when the distance between you and the car in front is enough to squeeze in another car, some anxious bastards will squeeze in, and then your safe distance will be shortened again. . . I can't think of any good way to avoid it.

 

[JKenTex]

That's driving in general, anywhere. That's why we have to react sooner and anticipate people doing dumb things.

FYI, I think I've seen a video you've done, regarding doors? Great video and the doors look great!

 

[Jeeper44mag]

We had a rear end collision on our way to the factory.
Although the speed was not fast, it was too slippery and I felt the tires dragging on the ground...

Not trying to be a richardhead or to just chastise you, but clearly you were following too closely. Also, you didn't start slowing down/braking when his brake lights first lit up. IMO, totally preventable. Good decision not to try to swerve into another lane considering the circumstances though.

 

[Jeeper44mag]

I thought of an interesting paradox. In theory, we should keep a safe distance from the car in front of us. But from my experience driving in China, sometimes when the distance between you and the car in front is enough to squeeze in another car, some anxious bastards will squeeze in, and then your safe distance will be shortened again. . . I can't think of any good way to avoid it.

There isn't. All you can do is sigh, and slow down some more to maintain a safe distance.

 

[KX L]

I thought of an interesting paradox. In theory, we should keep a safe distance from the car in front of us. But from my experience driving in China, sometimes when the distance between you and the car in front is enough to squeeze in another car, some anxious bastards will squeeze in, and then your safe distance will be shortened again. . . I can't think of any good way to avoid it.

Exactly right. I've driven all over the world and on every continent except antarctica due to 30 years on active duty with the Marine Corps. You've got to keep with the flow of traffic while maintaining a short enough distance to keep most of the idiots from squeezing in.

So many places all over the world; Naples, Kabul, Mogadishu, Bangkok, New York City etc etc the basic rule is to never make eye contact with another driver. As soon as you do you he wins as he knows you'll brake and let him in.

As you've said, it looks like most of this is due to momentary inattention on your part.

Way too many distractions in the modern world. Personally, I won't give a rats ass if I was the one hit from behind due to stopping in order to prevent hitting the guy in front of me. When it comes to the police and insurance it is always better to be hit than to hit. Brilliant for you to have a dash cam---especially in a foreign country to prove you weren't driving crazily.

One of the reasons I buy and love a manual transmission [provided you aren't in too high a gear] is that as soon as my foot is off the gas the truck maintains speed or starts to slow down instead of changing to a higher gear for fuel economy settings.

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