Clayton Off Road JT Suspension Systems

[kennyp]

I just got my used 2020 Sport with max tow.It already had a 2.5" Clayton premium lift with Falcon shocks. The black Rhino wheels and 35" Nitto tires, going to change to 37s, and couldn't beat the price. I just wanted to say this set up rides great.

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[Oak]

I currently have the mopar lift and with the weight I am carrying I'm not happy with how it feels now when I disconnect my sway bar offroad.

What improvement would I see with the 3.5 overland lift?

Should I add spacers to help to offset the rear weight?

Do you recommend the antirock sway bar with your kit or should I stick with the rubicon sway bar?

Thanks for your help!

 

[Clayton Off Road]

I currently have the mopar lift and with the weight I am carrying I'm not happy with how it feels now when I disconnect my sway bar offroad.

What improvement would I see with the 3.5 overland lift?

Should I add spacers to help to offset the rear weight?

Do you recommend the antirock sway bar with your kit or should I stick with the rubicon sway bar?

Thanks for your help!

Our kits use a little bit of a higher spring rate that's better suited for extra accessories and just provides an all-around more stable ride with less body roll and floatiness. You're also getting fully adjustable control arms and track bars, so the geometry is corrected and everything is able to move freely and adjust!

If the vehicle is mainly a daily driver or sees a lot of highway miles I would stick with the stock sway bar as the anti-rock is a great upgrade for off-road use but creates less stability at high speeds.

If you're carrying a lot of extra weight, over 600 lbs or so on the back of the truck, then we also have our HD coil springs for the rear, capable of handling up to 1000 lbs of extra weight before sitting below level, and are available from any one of our JT lift kits by going to the "related items" section and clicking on the item labeled "HD Coil Spring Swap Out"

Let me know if you need anything else!

 

[Oak]

Our kits use a little bit of a higher spring rate that's better suited for extra accessories and just provides an all-around more stable ride with less body roll and floatiness. You're also getting fully adjustable control arms and track bars, so the geometry is corrected and everything is able to move freely and adjust!

If the vehicle is mainly a daily driver or sees a lot of highway miles I would stick with the stock sway bar as the anti-rock is a great upgrade for off-road use but creates less stability at high speeds.

If you're carrying a lot of extra weight, over 600 lbs or so on the back of the truck, then we also have our HD coil springs for the rear, capable of handling up to 1000 lbs of extra weight before sitting below level, and are available from any one of our JT lift kits by going to the "related items" section and clicking on the item labeled "HD Coil Spring Swap Out"

Let me know if you need anything else!

Thank you...definitely need to swap springs. Does the antirock hurt the offroad/overlanding abilities with the extra weight?

Couldn't find people using it with your lift.

 

[Clayton Off Road]

Thank you...definitely need to swap springs. Does the antirock hurt the offroad/overlanding abilities with the extra weight?

Couldn't find people using it with your lift.

No it helps with off-road capability, just on road especially with the extra weight it might make things a little more unstable.

 

[dwinch1989]

I installed the Ride Right 2.5 lift over memorial weekend with Bilstein 5100 shocks, Fuel Ammo 17x9
-1mm offset wheels with Radar Renegade Rt 35x12.50 R17 tires. Ride and handling is great no rubbing. I'm so glad I decided on the Clayton lift will upgrade the the rest of the control arms in the future.

 

[22EcoDs]

I installed the Ride Right 2.5 lift over memorial weekend with Bilstein 5100 shocks, Fuel Ammo 17x9
-1mm offset wheels with Radar Renegade Rt 35x12.50 R17 tires. Ride and handling is great no rubbing. I'm so glad I decided on the Clayton lift will upgrade the the rest of the control arms in the future.

Damn, looks like I will have to buy some steps...

 

[Rzrhawg]

I installed the Ride Right 2.5 lift over memorial weekend with Bilstein 5100 shocks, Fuel Ammo 17x9
-1mm offset wheels with Radar Renegade Rt 35x12.50 R17 tires. Ride and handling is great no rubbing. I'm so glad I decided on the Clayton lift will upgrade the the rest of the control arms in the future.

Looks great! How does the 5100s feel with the kit?

 

[dwinch1989]

Looks great! How does the 5100s feel with the kit?

Thank You!
I would say the ride is a little firmer than stock, but with the tires and lift it has a real stable feel to it I really like the way it feels on the road.
Going to the Jeep invasion in Pigeon Forge that will be about a 6/12 hour drive on the interstate.
I can let you know what I think after driving that long thought the mountains.

 

[Clayton Off Road]

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[J_0ne]

I have had my Clayton Overland kit for about 1.5 years now and for the last six months I hear a squicky noise every time I hit a small bump on the road coming from the rubber joints, anyone else having this issue?

 

[Clayton Off Road]

I have had my Clayton Overland kit for about 1.5 years now and for the last six months I hear a squicky noise every time I hit a small bump on the road coming from the rubber joints, anyone else having this issue?

Hey Jose, are you sure it's one of the joints? Typically these bushings don't make noise, and if it's only happening over bumps I would make sure the rear coil springs are still seated properly, they can become unseated when using longer travel shocks and if the axles are fully drooped. I would also double-check that all of the jam nuts on the control arms and end links are fully tightened!

 

[J_0ne]

Already checked springs are seated, jam nuts are properly torqued. In fact when I installed the track bar, the metal bushing inside the rubber was falling off, so I made a call to you guys to get a new bushing and I was told to dismount the track bar and send a picture. I think is non sense to park, lift the truck remove components just so you can send me a $10 bushing when I paid $3k for this lift. Now your saying your bushing dont make any noise look elsewhere. Not to mention the issue with the recommended Falcon shocks that were too long Clayton had me contact Falcon and Falcon tells me I had to contact Clayton saying “the shocks are the correct length and the lift manufacturer should have taken this into consideration when developing the lift and recommending our the particular shock”. In the end looks like not enough R&D reaserch and development was done with this kit. I now have a lift kit on a truck that has less than 15k miles and makes noise like my 200k mile Chevy on daily driving conditions. Forgot to mention that if I go off-road I need to be aware that when going to the top of a hill my rear axel might drop low enough to were the rear springs might pop out on the trail.

Yes this reply might seem salty and on called for, but so far my experience with Clayton CS has always been to try to point the finger at something else because their system is perfect.

Lastly, my apologies to the Clayton employee who reply to me I understand you work for them and maybe the folks who I spoke to in the past not even work there anymore this is not in any way directed to you as an individual. Hopefully you can understand my discontent.

 

[Clayton Off Road]

Already checked springs are seated, jam nuts are properly torqued. In fact when I installed the track bar, the metal bushing inside the rubber was falling off, so I made a call to you guys to get a new bushing and I was told to dismount the track bar and send a picture. I think is non sense to park, lift the truck remove components just so you can send me a $10 bushing when I paid $3k for this lift. Now your saying your bushing dont make any noise look elsewhere. Not to mention the issue with the recommended Falcon shocks that were too long Clayton had me contact Falcon and Falcon tells me I had to contact Clayton saying “the shocks are the correct length and the lift manufacturer should have taken this into consideration when developing the lift and recommending our the particular shock”. In the end looks like not enough R&D reaserch and development was done with this kit. I now have a lift kit on a truck that has less than 15k miles and makes noise like my 200k mile Chevy on daily driving conditions. Forgot to mention that if I go off-road I need to be aware that when going to the top of a hill my rear axel might drop low enough to were the rear springs might pop out on the trail.

Yes this reply might seem salty and on called for, but so far my experience with Clayton CS has always been to try to point the finger at something else because their system is perfect.

Lastly, my apologies to the Clayton employee who reply to me I understand you work for them and maybe the folks who I spoke to in the past not even work there anymore this is not in any way directed to you as an individual. Hopefully you can understand my discontent.

Jose, I understand your frustration, but you also have to understand that of course problems do come up once in a while, it would be impossible for them not to, but that we always stand behind our products 100% and correct whatever issues our customers are experiencing. Out of the thousands of JT kits we have sold, there have only been a handful that have had some sort of faulty bushing, which we always replace for the customer. I apologize you had an issue in the past with your track bar bushing, but we need to collect pictures or videos of the faulty part in order to rectify the problem with our distributor, hopefully you can understand that.

As for R&D and the Falcon shocks, we do not perform any sort of R&D work on other companies or manufacturers products, that is of course up to that company. It is a known fact that the rear coil spring posts on the JT are very short, and so most shock manufacturers have had a hard time with longer travel shocks on this vehicle. This is of course rectified simply by using a set of limiting straps, or coil spring retainers which I do believe Falcon is now producing to work with their Falcon shocks, but this is in no way an issue with the lift kit or coil springs, and is not something that could have been tested for in R&D when designing the lift kit.

One of the biggest issues when diagnosing problems with suspension systems is how many variables are at play, especially taking into consideration the install. For example, if a bushing is experiencing any sort of noise or excessive play, it is possible there is some sort of issue with the bushing, but it is also very well possible that the bushing was over-torqued, or that the suspension is experiencing bind due to being tightened before the vehicle was under its own weight. I'm not saying that's what's happening in your situation, but that these are things that we need to take into consideration.

Whatever problem you are experiencing, I hope you understand we are on your side and are fully willing to work with you if you would like to give us a call or shoot us an email. It's possible we can help you diagnose the problem very simply, but if it comes down to replacing something for you than we are happy to do that as well.

 

[Jglad15]

Already checked springs are seated, jam nuts are properly torqued. In fact when I installed the track bar, the metal bushing inside the rubber was falling off, so I made a call to you guys to get a new bushing and I was told to dismount the track bar and send a picture. I think is non sense to park, lift the truck remove components just so you can send me a $10 bushing when I paid $3k for this lift. Now your saying your bushing dont make any noise look elsewhere. Not to mention the issue with the recommended Falcon shocks that were too long Clayton had me contact Falcon and Falcon tells me I had to contact Clayton saying “the shocks are the correct length and the lift manufacturer should have taken this into consideration when developing the lift and recommending our the particular shock”. In the end looks like not enough R&D reaserch and development was done with this kit. I now have a lift kit on a truck that has less than 15k miles and makes noise like my 200k mile Chevy on daily driving conditions. Forgot to mention that if I go off-road I need to be aware that when going to the top of a hill my rear axel might drop low enough to were the rear springs might pop out on the trail.

Yes this reply might seem salty and on called for, but so far my experience with Clayton CS has always been to try to point the finger at something else because their system is perfect.

Lastly, my apologies to the Clayton employee who reply to me I understand you work for them and maybe the folks who I spoke to in the past not even work there anymore this is not in any way directed to you as an individual. Hopefully you can understand my discontent.

Wow this is a lil harsh. Give them a chance to rectify the situation, instead of just bashing them. Not everything is always going to be perfect. There are going to be mishaps in production with everything. Sucks you had an issue, but like they said it could have been from install or it could have been something on their end, but the proper channels still have to be taken. Woopty do you have to lift the truck up, you chose to install it yourself. Shit happens. If the bushing was falling off when you installed it, maybe you shouldn have installed it. At that point your truck was already lifted off the ground. So if you have to re lift the truck to dismount it, you prob already made a bad situation worse moving forward with the install and installing a possible faulty part.

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