Clayton Off Road JT Suspension Systems

[gearhead22]

Looking at the Clayton 2.5” kit. Due to budget I’m looking at bilstein 5100’s or MC rock sport reds to pair with it. Anyone have either with the Clayton kits?

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[Jglad15]

Looking at the Clayton 2.5” kit. Due to budget I’m looking at bilstein 5100’s or MC rock sport reds to pair with it. Anyone have either with the Clayton kits?

I have the 2.5 overland plus kit. I get the whole budget thing. I was doing that when I first bought the kit and just got Fox 2.0’s to get the kit on quicker. I know I’m not answering your question on those two particular shocks. But looking back I wish I would have saved more and just waited to install it and bought nicer shocks. Night and day difference. But once cry once. I now have the falcon 3.3 fast adjust and love the adjustability. All the weight I had on my jeep the body roll was insane and was so soft. It feels so much more planted now. Hope this helps.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Looking at the Clayton 2.5” kit. Due to budget I’m looking at bilstein 5100’s or MC rock sport reds to pair with it. Anyone have either with the Clayton kits?

I've had a 2.5" Ride Right with Bilstein 5100 shocks for 63k miles now. It rides great.

 

[gearhead22]

I've had a 2.5" Ride Right with Bilstein 5100 shocks for 63k miles now. It rides great.

How would you describe the ride?

 

[gearhead22]

I have the 2.5 overland plus kit. I get the whole budget thing. I was doing that when I first bought the kit and just got Fox 2.0’s to get the kit on quicker. I know I’m not answering your question on those two particular shocks. But looking back I wish I would have saved more and just waited to install it and bought nicer shocks. Night and day difference. But once cry once. I now have the falcon 3.3 fast adjust and love the adjustability. All the weight I had on my jeep the body roll was insane and was so soft. It feels so much more planted now. Hope this helps.

The Fox shocks had that much body roll?

 

[Jglad15]

The Fox shocks had that much body roll?

I also had a cap, rtt, and an awning on it as well. They just couldn’t handle the weight. They were way too soft for my liking.

 

[gearhead22]

I also had a cap, rtt, and an awning on it as well. They just couldn’t handle the weight. They were way too soft for my liking.

Did you run it without them? If so what were your thoughts to en?

 

[Jglad15]

Did you run it without them? If so what were your thoughts to en?

I did, still on the softer side. But I also like a stiffer feeling suspension. Reading up on the forums of where the majority of ppl like to set there falcons I’m prob two or three more clicks on the stiffer side. If I could go back I would have waited another month or two to save a lil more. Shocks really make a difference in the ride. Right now I just have the cap on it since I’m not camping in this heat and I’m still liking the falcons. If you read up on them here ppl either love them or hate them. But they are a nice midway shock.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

How would you describe the ride?

Kind of firm, but not overly firm.

People that ride in my Jeep often comment that it rides nice.

 

[msmorales150]

So I know it's difficult to tell in a picture because the tires never look as big as they really are, but that main RideRight+ photo is the 3.5" with 37's, and the sting gray jeep is actually the 2.5" kit on 35's, I'll include the images below for you to see!

3.5" w/ 37's

2.5" w/ 35's

So I know it's difficult to tell in a picture because the tires never look as big as they really are, but that main RideRight+ photo is the 3.5" with 37's, and the sting gray jeep is actually the 2.5" kit on 35's, I'll include the images below for you to see!

3.5" w/ 37's

2.5" w/ 35's

Hi, thank you for clarifying which setup/kit each of these vehicles have.
I like the look of the Rubicon with the 37’s, I have a ‘23 JT Willy’s and I am getting ready to install 37s on it. I believe that the Rubicons come from the factory with about an extra inch of lift versus the sport and willys.
If I were to use the same 3.5 inch lift kit, can I expect the same net height as the Rubicon after it is all said and done or would my JT sit at a lower height than the Rubicon with the same lift kit installed on it?

 

[msmorales150]

It's definitely more than stock due to the longer springs and shocks, but it's not something we were super concerned with measuring for this kit since this kit is for somebody mainly looking to use the vehicle as a daily driver, but fit some larger wheels and tires. The main concern here was ride quality, which is why we include the front uppers so that you can perfectly dial in your caster angle. If you're looking for maximum articulation, I would definitely consider either our complete Overland+ or Premium Series kit with all 8 control arms!

I noticed that the price for the ride right is around $1800 and as you mentioned it includes the front uppers but does not include the remaining six adjustable control arms. I appreciate you offering clarification, but I’m still a little bit confused as to whether or not I will be causing unnecessary wear and tear to my new tires if I were to install the ride right kit without the remaining Adjustable control arms. The Overland plus kit is very pricey, it looks like it’s running around $4300 so it’s about a difference of around $2500 for those remaining six control arms. Is there something else that I’m missing that is included with the kit, other than a few miscellaneous components like additional brake line extensions? I’m tempted to go all in and get the Cadillac product as opposed to the Chevy so to speak, but the price is steep coming in at more than double for the remaining control arms so I’m just trying to figure out if the juice is worth the squeeze. For me this is mostly a daily driver but I also want to make sure that I’m not causing unnecessary wear and tear. Do you think you can dive a little deeper and give some additional feedback?

 

[Deadpool392]

I noticed that the price for the ride right is around $1800 and as you mentioned it includes the front uppers but does not include the remaining six adjustable control arms. I appreciate you offering clarification, but I’m still a little bit confused as to whether or not I will be causing unnecessary wear and tear to my new tires if I were to install the ride right kit without the remaining Adjustable control arms. The Overland plus kit is very pricey, it looks like it’s running around $4300 so it’s about a difference of around $2500 for those remaining six control arms. Is there something else that I’m missing that is included with the kit, other than a few miscellaneous components like additional brake line extensions? I’m tempted to go all in and get the Cadillac product as opposed to the Chevy so to speak, but the price is steep coming in at more than double for the remaining control arms so I’m just trying to figure out if the juice is worth the squeeze. For me this is mostly a daily driver but I also want to make sure that I’m not causing unnecessary wear and tear. Do you think you can dive a little deeper and give some additional feedback?

Buy once, cry once— Get the overland plus and don’t worry, you will be happy with it. It is a solid lift kit and has everything you need less the shocks, which I liked since I wanted Bilstein shocks.

 

[gearhead22]

I noticed that the price for the ride right is around $1800 and as you mentioned it includes the front uppers but does not include the remaining six adjustable control arms. I appreciate you offering clarification, but I’m still a little bit confused as to whether or not I will be causing unnecessary wear and tear to my new tires if I were to install the ride right kit without the remaining Adjustable control arms. The Overland plus kit is very pricey, it looks like it’s running around $4300 so it’s about a difference of around $2500 for those remaining six control arms. Is there something else that I’m missing that is included with the kit, other than a few miscellaneous components like additional brake line extensions? I’m tempted to go all in and get the Cadillac product as opposed to the Chevy so to speak, but the price is steep coming in at more than double for the remaining control arms so I’m just trying to figure out if the juice is worth the squeeze. For me this is mostly a daily driver but I also want to make sure that I’m not causing unnecessary wear and tear. Do you think you can dive a little deeper and give some additional feedback?

The purpose of the front upper control arms included in the kit is because it will allow you to set caster. That is a necessity when lifting a jeep. The rear upper arms would be the next best addition as it will allow you to set your pinion angle for the rear axle. The lower arms mainly are used to set your wheelbase. When the jeep is lifted the wheel base will shorten unless the lower control arms are lengthened to offset that. They lowers aren’t a necessity, and the rear upper, while more of a necessity than the lowers, isn’t enough of a necessity to need them compared to the front uppers. Clayton’s ride right kit is ~$1800 and the overland plus is ~$3000 excluding shocks. It’s up to you to decide if it’s worth the extra cost. Clayton sells a ton of ride right kits and for a good reason, it’s everything you NEED to get your jeep driving good after the lift. Sure you can always have more, but it’s not absolutely necessary. No your jeep won’t drive like a** with the ride right kit, it is still a jeep though. Everything for a proper alignment (necessary for good tire wear) will be able to be adjusted as needed with either the ride right or overland plus. Look at Clayton, rock krawler and Metalcloak. All great options and similarly priced.

 

[msmorales150]

The purpose of the front upper control arms included in the kit is because it will allow you to set caster. That is a necessity when lifting a jeep. The rear upper arms would be the next best addition as it will allow you to set your pinion angle for the rear axle. The lower arms mainly are used to set your wheelbase. When the jeep is lifted the wheel base will shorten unless the lower control arms are lengthened to offset that. They lowers aren’t a necessity, and the rear upper, while more of a necessity than the lowers, isn’t enough of a necessity to need them compared to the front uppers. Clayton’s ride right kit is ~$1800 and the overland plus is ~$3000 excluding shocks. It’s up to you to decide if it’s worth the extra cost. Clayton sells a ton of ride right kits and for a good reason, it’s everything you NEED to get your jeep driving good after the lift. Sure you can always have more, but it’s not absolutely necessary. No your jeep won’t drive like a** with the ride right kit, it is still a jeep though. Everything for a proper alignment (necessary for good tire wear) will be able to be adjusted as needed with either the ride right or overland plus. Look at Clayton, rock krawler and Metalcloak. All great options and similarly priced.

Great feedback, thanks for the response. And I didn’t realize that the Overland plus was priced around 3000, I think that’s kind of the sweet spot. I already purchased the fox 2.5 shocks for the front and rear. I was considering going with the ride right kit and then buying the remaining control arms from metal cloak, but if the kid is priced around 3K I might just go with Clayton and be done with it.

 

[gearhead22]

Great feedback, thanks for the response. And I didn’t realize that the Overland plus was priced around 3000, I think that’s kind of the sweet spot. I already purchased the fox 2.5 shocks for the front and rear. I was considering going with the ride right kit and then buying the remaining control arms from metal cloak, but if the kid is priced around 3K I might just go with Clayton and be done with it.

You can’t go wrong with either brand. They’re very similar. Clayton is marketed more towards overlanding and load carrying and metalcloak more towards flex and maximum offroad performance. Both companies are similar in spring rate so would ride similar if using the same shock. Metalcloaks zinc coating on their arms resists corrosion very well but will fade from gold to silver over time unless a clear coat is applied.

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