Doors off for the first time yesterday. Some questions.

[Motoarch]

I will tell you DON'T get these, or any like it: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08TBR5Z3L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They shake horribly, the plastic absorbs all the tension so the bolt basically sinks and doesn't get tight, and they fold in and down at any speed above 45mph.

agreed. I have the same/similar and they are junk. Im going to try the scooter type ones posted a post or 2 above yours. Cheap and I like the way the mount much better.

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[GrubbyBaja]

1. I'm happy with my JPeggz mirror/footrest combo. Uses the same T50 bit that came in your tool kit to attach with 2 hinge bolts on each assembly.

2. Don't use hinge pins, but have been looking at them to prevent the inevitable "oops".

3. 2 years, 22k miles in SE Alabama, so my doors have been on & off quite a bit. Have not had any issues with the connector, but I analyzed the connector early on and figured out exactly how it works. As others have said, as long as you're careful with initial alignment, push together until a definitive click releases the lever, then use lever to finish the connection; you shouldn't have any issues.

 

[sass JT]

OP,

I have a set of kickbak’s that I have used now on 2 jeeps and they have been good. I do see a little bit of flutter on the mirror at hwy speeds. Also they were made for the jk and I customized them for the JT.

I’ve never used alignment pins but I have a set I bought from Amazon sitting at home, ready to go.

1 thing to think about is some derlin hinge liners from kontrol or tmr customs. They make pulling/putting doors back in so easy and slick.

As for the door connectors…. Totally up to you my friend, I’ve had 3 jeeps with removable doors for over 10 years… never had an issue with my plugs…. But it could happen. I always say an ounce of prevention helps alleviate issues in the future.

Good luck with your decisions!

 

[Diesl Jp]

For the mirrors, are tube doors a consideration? My wife and kids feel a little more secure having tube doors. It's probably just the illusion of added safety, but it really doesn't negatively impact the doors-off experience. Regardless, many of them come with mirrors. I have these and like them pretty well. The mirrors are very similar to the factory mirrors (minus any electronic bits).

 

[Trauma PA]

Can you post a link to the mirrors you recommend? Thanks.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/lange-o...MIx-SrlNv29wIVmK_ICh1GoAN_EAQYAiABEgKCbPD_BwE

 

[Trauma PA]

If you want tool-less and nothing remaining when removed, my set up might be what you want.
Its a Double take adventure motorcycle mirror with a RAM Tough-claw, small size w/1" ball and a 3" long RAM arm 1" ball size.

They keep their adjustment and you can pop them on/off the grab handle in seconds.
They are clear and do not budge at speed.

Do you happen to know the total cost of this set up?
how about links to each part you mentioned?
does the mount leave any marks on your grab handle?
do you do one of these for the passenger side as well?

 

[dcmdon]

For the mirrors, are tube doors a consideration? My wife and kids feel a little more secure having tube doors. It's probably just the illusion of added safety, but it really doesn't negatively impact the doors-off experience. Regardless, many of them come with mirrors. I have these and like them pretty well. The mirrors are very similar to the factory mirrors (minus any electronic bits).

I was thinking about this and if you get the Chinese stuff they are very reasonably priced.

But I probably won't be getting tube doors, mainly because I don't want to store them for the 97% of the days when I won't have the main doors off.

 

[dcmdon]

One other question. I'll put it here hoping for an answer rather than starting a new thread.

The doors have these plastic struts that are used to control them. They seem unnecessary with the canvas parts that prevent the doors from opening too much.

Is it worth reconnecting those plastic struts or just leave them off to make removing the doors easier?

At this point Itried pulling them out but they require too much force. If the consensus is to connect them, what's the best way to get them back out.

Thanks.

 

[bleda2002]

One other question. I'll put it here hoping for an answer rather than starting a new thread.

The doors have these plastic struts that are used to control them. They seem unnecessary with the canvas parts that prevent the doors from opening too much.

Is it worth reconnecting those plastic struts or just leave them off to make removing the doors easier?

At this point Itried pulling them out but they require too much force. If the consensus is to connect them, what's the best way to get them back out.

Thanks.

They're there to prevent the door opening or closing with wind/inclination.


I've lost them inside twice, only way I got them out was with a little help. I hung the door on the hinge opened it up had the wife hold it from swinging too far open and pulled like hell with a pair of vice grips.

 

[john#21]

1) I have these: https://www.quadratec.com/products/13111_0401_14.htm I use a socket wrench to install them. If I tighten them down good, they don't fold in even on the highway. I've had a pair of "toolless" mirrors before and they folded at 35mph. I don't have experience with other mirrors.

2) I use hinge pin guides from Amazon. You don't need expensive ones.

3) Just be careful with it and don't force it. Most of the pin problems I've read about seem to be with the blindspot sensors and safety features. I put mine on and take them off for the last couple summers and haven't had any problems.

I have some like these but with a square mirror. They would fold in over 65 mph. I drilled them out on the upright bar and mounted some gate hinge pieces. I didn't take pics of if but I can later. Now they dont fold in where they are useless. Still vibrate like an SOB though but work enough for my needs. premodded pic for reference

 

[dcmdon]

I have some like these but with a square mirror. They would fold in over 65 mph. I drilled them out on the upright bar and mounted some gate hinge pieces. I didn't take pics of if but I can later. Now they dont fold in where they are useless. Still vibrate like an SOB though but work enough for my needs. premodded pic for reference

I don't really care about vibration. I've got a Tazer and have found over the last few days that while driving I can turn on the rear camera and that works great.

I really only need side mirrors for backing up and at that low speed vibration isn't an issue.

Thanks.

 

[Artsifrtsi]

One other question. I'll put it here hoping for an answer rather than starting a new thread.

The doors have these plastic struts that are used to control them. They seem unnecessary with the canvas parts that prevent the doors from opening too much.

Is it worth reconnecting those plastic struts or just leave them off to make removing the doors easier?

At this point Itried pulling them out but they require too much force. If the consensus is to connect them, what's the best way to get them back out.

Thanks.

I reconnect them, they do help to keep doors open when on hills.

 

[Sank]

@dcmdon

You said "toolless" but what you really mean is no tools required when taking doors on and off.

Same. So I made them permanently compatible with or without doors.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/3-dollar-doorless-mirrors.57916/

Cheers,

 

[john#21]

I reconnect them, they do help to keep doors open when on hills.

You taking about the rod that screws to the pillar?

I leave mine extended out so I dont have to mess with pulling them out.

I helped my friend today actually with her JLU, she had pushed them in so "they wouldn't get damaged". I used a screw driver through the hole on the end to get better leverage on it.

It was still a PIA but much easier than trying to use my hands.

 

[GrubbyBaja]

... At this point Itried pulling them out but they require too much force. If the consensus is to connect them, what's the best way to get them back out.

Thanks.

Best thing is to not let them get pushed back into the door. If they do get pushed back in, use a piece of parachute cord tied through the hole and pull it back out...or use pliers.

I thought about leaving mine pushed in, but I like their usefulness of keeping the door open.

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