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I have a Rubicon JT and noticed if I drive on a dirt road in 4H it’s EXTREMELY bouncy and everything rattles. I know airing down will help, yet sometimes I can’t.
Let’s say your driving for a few mins on a dirt road but are back to pavement, how would you guys drive on the dirt road, and what settings would you use if you can’t air down? I was seeing Mini vans and Prius take the same road and they had no issues. What am I doing wrong?
Add more weight.
When I drive on the beach, I have to manually shift it and turn off the traction control or it can bog down sometimes and stop me in my tracks.
Is the tire size correct in the computer? Also be hair down to 10 psi that helps with flotation. Otherwise I found if I mash it then transmission will downshift enough to get me up the hills.
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Add more weight.

Is the tire size correct in the computer? Also be hair down to 10 psi that helps with flotation. Otherwise I found if I mash it then transmission will downshift enough to get me up the hills.
I air down and I’m fine. My tires are a little bigger 255-285 and speedo not corrected, but it’s mainly if I forget to turn off the traction control. When I do that, I just go ahead and manually shift so no chance for issues.
 

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Airing down is a game changer for sure. Get onboard air. Makes it a non issue.


Sounds like your tires, if stock, are still very overinflated. I keep getting my truck back from service oil changes with 40+ psi. That's uncomfortable and upsets the suspension. On the stock 33's I wouldn't run more than 35 PSI, I run my 35's at 31-32. Tires make a big difference, tire PRESSURE makes a big difference.

Airing down is a different ball of wax, 17-18 PSI is airing down - some YT channel called 25 lbs airing down, I laughed out loud. You don't need beadlocks for airing down that far, single digit pressures, sure.

Another thing that can significantly improve rough road comfort is disconnecting the front swaybar - the Tazer is a gift to Rubicon owners. We spend our time transiting across rough roads in 2Hi with the rear locker on and the swaybar off. My wife calls it "scushy mode".
 

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A stupid low top speed and lots of frustration going back and forth between hi and lo trying to keep up with everyone else.
Just depends on where you are, and what the trails are like in your area. When using 4lo, and taking off in second gear, or sometimes 3rd (manual trans) in all but the steepest situations, and driving in to 2-4, I don't have any trouble at all keeping up with others. You can't go fast enough to max out 4 lo locally, without breaking something. First time out in the JT I hated 4lo, and mostly used 2wd until I needed 4hi. Last time around, I really leaned into 4LO, and used it most of the ride, and realized it's perfect. Makes everything so much easier. If I'm going fast enough not to be able to keep up in 4LO, then that trail probably doesn't need to be run in low range. I guess if you're somewhere less rocky and more open, your experience is diifferent.

But to the OP, disconnect that swaybar. It'll make things much more tolerable. It's night and day. I disconnect it on every off-road adventure, even though I don't need the articulation 99% of the time.
 
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But to the OP, disconnect that swaybar. It'll make things much more tolerable. It's night and day. I disconnect it on every off-road adventure, even though I don't need the articulation 99% of the time.
Interesting. Sounds like it's time for the Apex disconnects for me.
 

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A Jeep like ours does not make driving down bumpy roads any less bumpy. It’s actually the opposite. A Nissan Sentra would feel better in the cab…provided it doesn’t bottom out ;->

Solid axles come at the price of driver comfort. The strength, traction, & flexibility of solid axles is their mojo in an off-road environment.

The 4:1 transfer case case that Jeep brought to the table in the Rubicon was what rock crawlers were striving for through aftermarket means before then. But…for most light or moderate trail riding it’s too low,. With a Rubicon in 4lo in first gear you could probably walk faster than it will go at idle speed, this is intentional. It’s about having control over your torque at very low speeds to navigate intricate obstacles.

As far as airing down…that certainly helps for comfort if you are going to be on bumpy dirt roads for long periods. Airing back up is always the problem without on board air. But…I think airing down into the low 20’s would make a noticeable difference and still get you to the next gas station without issue. I would air my rock crawler CJ down to 5lbs on the trail…without beadlocks ;-P. I got good a resetting a bead on the trail ;).

Anyway happy trails!
 
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A Jeep like ours does not make driving down bumpy roads any less bumpy. It’s actually the opposite. A Nissan Sentra would feel better in the cab…provided it doesn’t bottom out ;->

Solid axles come at the price of driver comfort. The strength, traction, & flexibility of solid axles is their mojo in an off-road environment.

The 4:1 transfer case case that Jeep brought to the table in the Rubicon was what rock crawlers were striving for through aftermarket means before then. But…for most light or moderate trail riding it’s too low. With a Rubicon in 4lo in first gear you could probably walk faster than it will go at idle speed. It’s about having control over your torque at very low speeds to navigate intricate obstacles.

As far as airing down…that certainly helps for comfort if you are going to be on bumpy dirt roads for long periods. Airing back up is always the problem without on board air. But…I think airing down into the low 20’s would suffice and get you to the next gas station without issue. I would air my rock crawler CJ down to 5lbs on the trail…without beadlocks ;-P. I got good a resetting a bead on the trail ;).

Anyway happy trails!
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Just depends on where you are, and what the trails are like in your area. When using 4lo, and taking off in second gear, or sometimes 3rd (manual trans) in all but the steepest situations, and driving in to 2-4, I don't have any trouble at all keeping up with others. You can't go fast enough to max out 4 lo locally, without breaking something. First time out in the JT I hated 4lo, and mostly used 2wd until I needed 4hi. Last time around, I really leaned into 4LO, and used it most of the ride, and realized it's perfect. Makes everything so much easier. If I'm going fast enough not to be able to keep up in 4LO, then that trail probably doesn't need to be run in low range. I guess if you're somewhere less rocky and more open, your experience is diifferent.

But to the OP, disconnect that swaybar. It'll make things much more tolerable. It's night and day. I disconnect it on every off-road adventure, even though I don't need the articulation 99% of the time.
Yes, it's very situational. I personally haven't done anything where I was like, damn wouldn't have made that with a 2.7:1 low range.

Helps a lot with a manual and not stalling as much though.
 

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Yes, it's very situational. I personally haven't done anything where I was like, damn wouldn't have made that with a 2.7:1 low range.

Helps a lot with a manual and not stalling as much though.
I haven't either. But it sure makes it a lot easier! The 4:1 box is a godsend for manual owners, I think. It pretty much eliminates stalling and burning the clutch. Sure it could be done with with 2.7:1. But the 4:1 makes it much more comfortable with the MT, with less clutch wear too.
 

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So I took the sport (max tow) on a ride this past weekend on some trails. Nothing too crazy. Kept it in 4H the whole time. I noticed that I preferred to put the jeep in Manual mode and never got out of 1st gear. We were moving pretty slow along the trail. Is this a pretty common process, or do most of you just leave it in D and just go at it?

For those who have the rubicon, what does the 4:1 give you on the trails that the others do not?
Shifting manually off road is very common and makes a ton of sense. Transmissions can't see the pothole or rock you are about to go over. Shifting manually controls your speed and torque over obstacles reducing fatigue and wear on your vehicle. Keep doing it. 4:1 gives you even more control of your speed over obstacles. Staying in too low a area for the terrain will however lower your efficiency.
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