ELECTION 2020 - Gladiator Style

[Jeeperjamie]

At least I stopped jacking your threads! Figured I would just rant as OP. This thing is over here in off topic, it says election in the thread title, so I'm cool with it. Anybody reading this did workc to find it. As for the general opinions, hey, it's an election, and we are six months out. More to come for those who take the time to find this lonely outpost. As for me, this is the most interesting election cycle in awhile, and I'm psyched to see what happens!

I'm totally fine with it, just giving my opinion. Hey it's America dude, freedom of speech. Say what you want or feel. This thread is a good place for it

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[5JeepsAz]

Dear reader, I know there is only one of you, so I'll keep it brief. This post is on this forum because of the demographic. This is a unique cross section. If you stumble across this post by accident, and it plays a small part to trigger you to vote, job done.

 

[Capt. B]

Dear reader, I know there is only one of you, so I'll keep it brief. This post is on this forum because of the demographic. This is a unique cross section. If you stumble across this post by accident, and it plays a small part to trigger you to vote, job done.

You really need another hobby or you need to get laid. Big time.

 

[KVJ]

She lost me at the part where no group focuses on it's lowest demoniator.

I think what your referring to is when she said that the only group of people in the world, be it Asian, White, Jewish or whatever, that defends the low life's of their respective community (drug addicts, burglars, pimps, thieves and so on) is the Black Americans if it i done by a Cop.

Now if I were in the house and saw the police beating the crap out of my neighbor, my first thought would be....."I don't know what he did but I don't want to do what he did."
On the other hand if it were a black neighborhood they would all come out and protest before any proof of guilt or innocence.
That is what I found surprising in her video. Also the multiple jail sentences that guy had before and the drugs found in the autopsy. So, I posted it to offer a different perspective on these current events from a young women that obviously is intellectual and insightful.

 

[5JeepsAz]

I think what your referring to is when she said that the only group of people in the world, be it Asian, White, Jewish or whatever, that defends the low life's of their respective community (drug addicts, burglars, pimps, thieves and so on) is the Black Americans if it i done by a Cop.

Now if I were in the house and saw the police beating the crap out of my neighbor, my first thought would be....."I don't know what he did but I don't want to do what he did."
On the other hand if it were a black neighborhood they would all come out and protest before any proof of guilt or innocence.
That is what I found surprising in her video. Also the multiple jail sentences that guy had before and the drugs found in the autopsy. So, I posted it to offer a different perspective on these current events from a young women that obviously is intellectual and insightful.

Grateful for the perspective. I ran into a guy today, thinks America is great, became a citizen in 2010, got his college degree, says everyone in the world wants to be here, land of opportunity, etc. I love new citizens for that very thing, they understand what it means to be an American, to be an American parent of daughters. He was born and raised in war torn Congo where armed militias were common and people were killed every day. Glad he is an American, and glad we have a visa program that welcomes new blood, new talent to our citizens.

I will differ on one neighborhood vs. another. People are people. Nobody's running out to protest first thing. Everyone gets pissed after getting stepped on long enough. We are all essentially the same humanity, these folks just protesting, and that all good, imo.

I think we basically all agree, peaceful protests good, looting bad.

 

[5JeepsAz]

You really need another hobby or you need to get laid. Big time.

Elections are a hobby. I like em. You want to talk sense, ok, say something about politics!

Worrying about me doesn't suit you - you are a little bit too concerned.

 

[5JeepsAz]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two Republican-led Senate committees have launched election-year investigations into the Justice Department’s Russia probe, resurrecting the issue at the urging of President Donald Trump while reigniting the partisan hostility that comes along with it.


BOSTON (AP) — Google said state-backed hackers have targeted the campaigns of both President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden, although it saw no evidence that the phishing attempts were successful.

The company confirmed the findings after the director of its Threat Analysis Group, Shane Huntley, disclosed the attempts Thursday on Twitter.

Huntley said a Chinese group known as Hurricane Panda targeted Trump campaign staffers while an Iranian outfit known as Charming Kitten had attempted to breach accounts of Biden campaign workers. Such phishing attempts typically involve forged emails with links designed to harvest passwords or infect devices with malware.

 

[5JeepsAz]

Unemployment Rate Fell to 13.3% in May

The May U.S. jobless rate fell to 13.3% and employers added 2.5 million jobs, early signs the labor market is mending after the coronavirus pandemic shut down parts of the economy nearly three months ago. The jobless rate fell from 14.7% a month earlier, which was the highest on records dating from 1948.

 

[5JeepsAz]

Friday Funnies....

 

[5JeepsAz]

Trump holds major campaign meetings at White House, as polls show Biden ahead (foxnews.com.)
snip
On the recent polling, the campaign believes most external polls are wrong and that their internal polls, which supposedly show Trump “very strong against Biden in all of the 17 states that we monitor,” are accurate.

One top campaign aide told Fox News, “We don’t spend millions on polls to be lied to. We pay because we believe ours are better.”

snip to WI poll .....Eight percent of Republicans defect to Biden. In addition, only 87 percent of those who approve of Trump’s job performance support his reelection.


Susan Collins to Skip Trump's Maine Visit as More Republican Senators Speak Out

Republican Senators Lisa Murkowski, James Lankford, Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse and Tim Scott have all criticized the Trump administration's response to protesters in Lafayette Park. (Newsweek)

 

[5JeepsAz]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Scores of retired military and defense leaders are denouncing President Donald Trump and accusing him of using the U.S. Armed Forces to undermine the rights of Americans protesting police brutality and the killing of George Floyd.

The condemnation Friday came in an op-ed in The Washington Post, signed by 89 former defense officials, and in a letter in support of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, signed by 55 retired military leaders.

It comes days after law enforcement officers used tear gas and deployed flash bangs to disperse a peaceful protest near White House shortly before Trump walked to the area to pose with a Bible in front of a damaged church. The president also threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807 to deploy federal troops to quell the protests.

(Photo will be removed at owners request, pm me, American Soldier Coming Home search found all over the internet)

 

[5JeepsAz]

(NBC, May 2019) Russian documents reveal desire to sow racial discord — and violence — in the U.S. Russians who were linked to interference in the 2016 U.S. election discussed ambitious plans to stoke unrest and even violence inside the U.S. as recently as 2018, according to documents reviewed by NBC News.

(NYT, April 2020) WASHINGTON — For years, President Trump has derided the assessment by American intelligence officials that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to assist his candidacy, dismissing it without evidence as the work of a “deep state” out to undermine his victory.

But on Tuesday, a long-awaited Senate review led by members of Mr. Trump’s own party effectively undercut those allegations. A three-year review by the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously found that the intelligence community assessment, pinning blame on Russia and outlining its goals to undercut American democracy, was fundamentally sound and untainted by politics.

(Politco, May 2020) National security adviser Robert O’Brien on Sunday said foreign powers were trying to exploit the fraught state of U.S. race relations and protests over George Floyd’s death.

On Saturday night, Republican Sen. Marco Rubio — the acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee — tweeted that he was seeing “very heavy” social media activity on nationwide demonstrations and counter reactions linked to at least three foreign adversaries. “They didn’t create these divisions. But they are actively stoking & promoting violence & confrontation from multiple angles,” he wrote.

(AP, June 2020) Facebook has removed nearly 200 social media accounts linked to white supremacy groups that planned to encourage members to attend protests over police killings of black people — in some cases with weapons, company officials said Friday.

The accounts on Facebook and Instagram were tied to the Proud Boys and the American Guard, two hate groups already banned on the platforms. Officials were already monitoring the accounts in preparation for removing them when they saw posts attempting to exploit the ongoing protests prompted by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

“We saw that these groups were planning to rally supporters and members to physically go to the protests and in some cases were preparing to go with weapons,” said Brian Fishman, Facebook’s director of counterterrorism and dangerous organizations policy.

The company did not divulge details of the account users — such as their specific plans for protests or where in the U.S. they live. It said “approximately” 190 accounts were removed overall.

(NYT, yesterday) With Broad Subpoena Power, Republicans Seek to Undercut Russia Inquiry

Republicans on two Senate committees moved to give their chairmen power …

 

[5JeepsAz]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Joe Biden has formally clinched the Democratic presidential nomination, setting him up for a bruising challenge to President Donald Trump that will play out against the unprecedented backdrop of a pandemic, economic collapse and civil unrest.

Or protest dance

 

[5JeepsAz]

Uh. No. The US Military has been a Beacon of Hope in these times.

We are fortunate in the last decade for our service members.

It'll be an identified group of republicans and Trump wearing the ass hat on this one....

WASHINGTON (AP) — Tensions between the White House and Pentagon have stretched to near a breaking point over President Donald Trump’s threat to use military force against street protests triggered by George Floyd’s death.

Friction in this relationship, historically, is not unusual. But in recent days, and for the second time in Trump’s term, it has raised a prospect of high-level resignations and the risk of lasting damage to the military’s reputation.

And get ready for more of this....

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Fox News apologized Saturday for how it displayed a chart correlating the stock market’s performance with the aftermath of the deaths of George Floyd, Martin Luther King Jr. and Michael Brown.

The problem, or 'issue':

(politico.com)
It’s a question as obvious as it is critical: How will the trio of crises—the pandemic, the economy, the demands for racial justice—affect the 2020 race for the White House. But in Washington, there are other implications that could matter almost as much to the direction of national policy, chief among them the Senate.

In many ways this is a question equal in importance to the outcome of the Presidential race. Just picture Trump without a GOP Senate to rubber-stamp his Supreme Court picks—or a President Biden forced to fight Mitch McConnell for every inch of ground.

(Fivethirtyeight.com ) snip
But in moments like this, when nobody knows exactly what to say or do, a few unlikely public critiques of Trump could have a surprising cascade effect. And if the president continues to transgress widely-shared democratic values — putting congressional Republicans in an increasingly difficult electoral position — we may yet see a consequential crack in the Republican Party.

(NYT) snip Former President George W. Bush won’t support the re-election of Mr. Trump, and Jeb Bush isn’t sure how he’ll vote, say people familiar with their thinking. Senator Mitt Romney of Utah won’t back Mr. Trump and is deliberating whether to again write in his wife, Ann, or cast another ballot this November. And Cindy McCain, the widow of Senator John McCain, is almost certain to support Mr. Biden but is unsure how public to be about it because one of her sons is eying a run for office.

(TheHiil) snip “The last week and a half has certainly raised the level of angst over the politics of the presidential race and consequences on the Senate. I think it’s just kind of become one thing after another. Initially the handling of COVID and now this,” said a Republican senator who requested anonymity to discuss conversations with GOP colleagues.
Snip "There are a lot of people in the middle that are looking for calmness,” said a second GOP senator who asked for anonymity to voice concerns about Trump’s recent performance. “It’s the tone and the words he’s using that I think might harm us back home.”

(foxnews.com) snip EXCLUSIVE -- A Republican group that opposes President Trump’s re-election is going up with a new ad on Saturday that spotlights the president's comments in March that he didn’t “take responsibility at all” for a widespread lack of coronavirus testing Americans faced at a time when the pandemic was spreading across the nation. The commercial by The Lincoln Project – shared first with Fox News -- highlights the late Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower and recounts how, as the Allied commander in charge of the successful World War II D-Day landings in Europe, he was prepared to take responsibility if the massive operation had failed.

(Newsweek) It is no secret that retired Lieutenant General Russel Honoré does not mince his words. And he didn't hold back describing how Republicans on Capitol Hill have responded to President Donald Trump's handling of the George Floyd protests.

"Silence," he said.

In a phone interview Friday, Honoré told Newsweek that like Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), he agrees with former Trump Secretary of Defense James Mattis' searing rebuke of the president. Plain and simple, he is "disappointed" more Republicans haven't spoken up.

NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll National Adults. Interviews conducted June 2nd through June 3rd, 2020,

Do you approve or disapprove of the job
Donald Trump is doing as president?

Approve Disapprove Unsure
Republican women 87% 9% 3%​

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[5JeepsAz]

This is what disavow looks like


(The Guardian) Colin Powell endorsed Democratic former US vice-president Joe Biden on Sunday, becoming the first major Republican to publicly back Donald Trump’s rival ahead of November’s election.

Powell, who led the US military during the 1991 Gulf War in Iraq under Republican former President George HW Bush and later led the Department of State under President George W Bush, said Trump has “drifted away” from the US Constitution and posed a danger to the country and its democracy.

“I cannot in any way support President Trump this year,” Powell, who did not vote for the Republican president in 2016, told CNN. Asked if he would vote for Biden, he added: “I will be voting for him.”

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