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Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s?

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Assuming you were correct when you posted that the drivers side rubbed, a new track bar and centering the axle will make it worse not better. Lifting with the stock track bar pulls the axle toward the drivers side.
My driver side hasn't rubbed, yet. I only mentioned in option #2 that I haven't done enough flexing yet to know if a right turn could create a rub as well. Basically acknowledging that a track bar could fix my passenger rub, or introduce a driver rub. Needs some testing.

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And see, you're like the examples I've read that lead me to believe I'd be safe, because surely with a lift I have even more room. :) And I do, at least with fenders.

But like I mentioned, there's always different experiences, as sometimes the lift or offset changes become the issue. Lift affects axle centering or brings something in line with the tire's wide point. Offset can push you into the lower fender point, etc.

Do you ever disconnect your sway bar when offroad?
Never. I basically do lighter trails and sand dunes. If I did more rocks then I would.
 

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Boring!!

But I know, that's why it's listed options #5 and #7.

If there were a 3 peak 37x11.5 tire available, that would have been on from the start. I'm reviewing other options before going tire change route though. I have a 90 day satisfaction guarantee, so I can swap out, but I don't want to use it until needed. If I have to change, I want to do it only once.
If it's me I'm just trimming the skid.
 
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I went to a work site, and got permission to roll up on some dirt hills. Nothing to ride on, so mostly attacking them at an angle, putting one front tire up and cranking the wheel.

I tried connected and disconnected and I couldn't replicate any rub. I will have to try somewhere I can ride the hills more fully (up, down and sideways) as the rub isn't occurring with a turn at these greater flex angles. Must take a certain case, full lock, while flexing up or down into a position.

I could take that as a good thing, as it likely means minimal adjustments could work. Trim the skid, track bar, and/or steering stop.

I took some pics, but being alone means the steering wheel rolls back a bit after letting go, so these aren't as tight as they could be. With the axle being about 1/4" off center, the front of the passenger tire gets closer to some parts. While the rear of the driver tire gets close to the control arm. If I get an adjustable track bar, I suspect the control arm will get further as it goes with the axle more to the center. I'm not sure if it rubs the control arm at any point, but it's pretty close for a stationary pic without anyone holding it at full lock

These pics aren't always fair comparisons as sometimes it's not just driver vs passenger, but also low vs high tire, connected vs disconnected, etc. It gives an idea of overall closeness in some conditions, but I'll have to try to put both wheels into the same positions for fair comparison pics next time.

Passenger side (high, compressed side, outward turn) control arm...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022863


Passenger side (low, uncompressed side, outward turn) control arm...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022848




Driver (low, uncompressed side, outward turn) control arm...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022843


Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022842


Driver (high, compressed side, outward turn) control arm...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022854





Passenger disconnected Apex Autolynx on compressed side, inward turn...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022839


Vs driver compressed, inward turn...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022847

When on the uncompressed side, the autolynx are of course not close at all.


Passenger skid plate...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022845


Vs driver...
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022846


And others.

Passenger, compressed, outward turn.
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022861


Passenger, compressed, inward turn, front of fender.
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022857


Passenger sway bar with inward turn.
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022844


Driver shock, uncompressed, with outward turn.
Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022841

Jeep Gladiator Eliminating rub on 2" lifted Mojave w/ 37s? 1000022836



Overall, I'm thinking a track bar should help, but would still like to replicate the issue first. And maybe see what a steering stop washer could do in that scenario. In the least it'd give me an idea of how severe based on how much it needs adjusting, and decide bar/trim from there.


I watched a couple track bar install videos. Looks like a walk in the park compared to installing the lift. However, they don't seem to loosen the control arms first. I'd think that'd be beneficial to prevent binding since they would be shifting over. Then of course, retorque under full weight.
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